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Finding a moisturizer that works for seborrheic dermatitis is quite a difficult task. It is often the case that the popular products on the market actually irritate peoples seborrheic dermatitis. It took me quite a long time to figure out what works and what doesn’t. Using my years of testing I feel that these tips can help people quick get a grasp on what moisturizers work for seborrheic dermatitis and which ones don’t

If you ended up on this page you likely have seborrheic dermatitis yourself or are trying to help someone who is currently fighting against it. Unfortunately many dermatologists claim that it is an incurable condition, which can only be tamed. Even though I do not believe this to be true, this article will help anyone suffering with seborrheic dermatitis in their day to day battles.

This article is meant to help put you on the right track. So here are the seven most essential tips for finding a moisturizer that help soothe your seborrheic dermatitis.

Finding the right moisturizer that you can use from time to time or even on a daily basis can help you hide your seborrheic dermatitis like a professional. However, many moisturizers on the market will actually cause more problems and make your skin flare up like never before.

Update March 16 2016: This moisturizer post was one of the first on this website. Since it’s original writing, a lot more research has been accumulated. My most successful approach to dealing with SD is discussed in detail here: My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen 2.0 (lot’s of useful discussion in the comments of this post as well).

1. Learn to Read Labels

If you have ever picked up a tube of moisturizer you will know that the ingredient lists are often times quite long and contain some lots of hard to pronounce items. Most of these items are, however, fairly similar and fall into a handful of major categories.

Typically a cream will consist of some type of oil and this will be indicated on the label as glycol, glycerine, mineral oil, or some type of vegetable oil (potentially label using its medical categorization of an acid).

Along with this oily base there will be an array of potential herbs which aim to soothe damage skin and help fight inflammation, while accelerating healing. The most common are Aloe and Calendula, which are actually quite good. Some creams try to go for large numbers of herbs to try and make the moisturizer look more potent, however large combinations of herbs can actually produce poor results due to strange effects from incompatibility.

Be careful with dimethicone, it acts as a glove on the outer layer of the skin. This affect might be good in terms of keeps thing moisturizer, but can help the fungus which is believed to be the cause of seborrheic dermatitis (malassezia) spread and may prevent the skin from proper ventilation and breathability.

Also try to avoid things that end with “paraben” and other strong preservative agents in the long term. This items have been shown to cause dependeability and are potentially carcinogenic to your skin cells. However, I have seen them work quite well for seborrheic dermatitis since these are antimicrobial agents. And these can actually kill off the fungus (malassezia) which is documented to be one the most common causes seborrheic dermatitis.

Aim for not so long labels and understand-ability. If you are unsure how a certain ingredient will affect your skin, try a Google search or a simple spot test on your hand.

2. Natural Does Not Mean Better or Safe

There is a strong trend towards more natural and earthy products. This is great, however many things found in nature can aggravate your skin. Be skeptical with products coming from small unknown companies which make bold claims and say they are the best because they are all natural.

It is true that there are some very amazing all natural products out there, but the majority seem to be pure rubbish. Plus they typically charge a significant premium relative to their not so natural counterparts. This is likely because the individuals producing them have little education in dermatology and their product has only been used on a limited amount of people. Many of the natural ingredients which they use do not work the same from one person to the next, or from one condition to the next.

Many of those which I have personally used are a big waste of time and money. Some of the biggest let downs have been products with a strong herbal base, which claim to heal the skin. These have typically actually aggravated my seborrheic dermatitis. This could be potentially due to lack of preservatives and ingredients going bad/rancid or just being too strong for broken/sensitive skin. Specifically many products containing Aloe Vera have been quite bad. Effective Aloe Vera is amazing, however the majority of the processes used in its refinement actually make it unusable. Once again, be careful and try Google or Amazon for reviews before you buy.

Also try to avoid many of the natural oils since they can serve as the perfect food for fungus which has been demonstrated to produce seborrheic dermatitis (Malassezia). This includes such things as coconut oil (lauric acid), sunflower oil (annui), or olive oil (oleic acid). However, some oils can not be utilized by the malassezia and actually demonstrate anti-malassezia potential. For example, caprylic acid is a unique fatty acid found in coconut oil, palm kernel oil and goats milk which has demonstrated anti-fungal properties which make it perfect for combating malassezia and seborrheic dermatitis.

3. Understand Moisturizer Fundamentals

The basis of how pretty much all moisturizers work is the same. First they serve to seal moisture in and second they stimulate the skin to bring moisture to the top.

The first item is quite straight forward. The moisturizer typically contains some sort of oil or embroilment which locks things and prevents everything from drying up. If the wrong ingredients are chosen for this purpose then you will typically be left with greasy skin and clogged pours, which you must avoid at all costs when fighting seborrheic dermatitis.

The second item is a little bit more complicated. Many creams have their own way for achieving this affect. Typically herbs or other agents are used to stimulate the skin. The target stimulation is what causes the moisture to come forth. However, think of your skin as an athlete who can only be pushed so far.

Please be aware, that if you constantly force the skin to push moisture to the top, then you remove this moisturize by cleansing or washing you may end up pushing your skin to exhaustion. Learn to take it easy and let your skin recover on its own time. Moisturize only when absolutely necessary and try to take regular breaks from moisturizers.

4. Change It Up

Everyone’s skin is different, what is recommended for some is not recommended for others. This also applies to seborrheic dermatitis, which also varies from person to person.

The easiest way to find a moisturizer that works for you seborrheic dermatitis is to try out different ones, until you find something that works. As long as you know the fundamentals and make educated decisions you should have a reasonably high success rate. Having two or more products that work for you is better than just one as this gives your skin some variability and keeps it alive.

Once you get a feel of which ones work for you, it will be easier to pick the correct one for the occasion. Occasions could be things such as intensive repair (typically too heavy for going out), for sports and sweating, and one for regular usage.

One way to try out different moisturizers is to talk to the clerk at the pharmacy or chain store to see if they have any samples of products available. Typically popular pharmacies will have the most sample variety available, since this is where company reps typically go first.

At the end of this article you can find a list of moisturizers that I’ve personally tried and that have been the most positive for my dermatitis.

5. Reach for Edibles

When one thinks that he needs to find a moisturizer, they typically visit their local store. However, what many do not know is you might have some amazing moisturizers right there at home.

My favourite moisturizers are actually ones in my kitchen. Instead of creams and lotions I actually tend to use these the most. My favourite is regular boiled tap water in a spray bottle, several hour honey-water cream, or even padding the skin with a used green tea bag. These simple, quick and dirty tricks actually allow me to refrain from almost ever using a moisturizer. Yes it is true I have a cupboard full of cream and lotions, but this is only because I didn’t know the wonders things in the kitchen.

One word of warning in regards to edibles. Many people online report using coconut oil on their face, and claim that it has cured them altogether. Please give this a try, it may work for you. When I attempted this, everything was amazing on the first application. Skin was great. However, soon after my seborrheic dermatitis got very unhappy with the coconut oil. Things when steeply downward and my skin was super angry. After this I never really used coconut oil on my facial skin again. It did become a staple for dry hands though. The smell is terrific and I frequently use it after the shower. It penetrates the skin quickly and does not leave the greasy feeling I get from most creams.

6. Avoid Petrolatum and Choose Oils Wisely

This ties in directly with the end of the last point. After trying many oil based or Vaseline based (petrolatum) products I’ve concluded that the majority are not good for seborrheic dermatitis. I’ve tried hemp oil, olive oil, sesame seed oil, coconut oil, plain Vaseline, and many other oily products. They were also great at first and skin improved drastically, but after a few days of usage things quickly get out of control. The seborrheic dermatitis starts reacting to the oil and strong inflammation occurs.

At the fundamental level the majority oils do not work, because they feed the fungus (Malassezia) which is involved in seborrheic dermatitis. It causes the fungus to go on a feeding frenzy and creates problems. This can be noted in many online studies. However, as noted earlier some fatty acids (single components of oils) have shown strong anti-malassezia activity and are much more suitable for treating seborrheic dermatitis.

Please Google around if you wish to find out more or leave a comment and I’ll dig up the research for you. There is one specific research study where they tried different methods for culturing the malassezia and all oils tested promoted their growth, while specific single fatty acids did not.

If you need to find a moisturizer that works for seborrheic dermatitis you’ve come to the right place. Read below for my 7 essential tips to finding a moisturizer that works for your dermatitis..

7. Think Outside of Moisturizers

Moisturizing is not the only way to keep you skin moist. Sweating, sauna and high water intake all go hand in hand with healthy skin. These things are not just great for your skin, but also for your health. So why not put them to use.

Simply taking the time to learn about seborrheic dermatitis can be a huge step towards long term treatment. Consider bookmarking and reading the seborrheic dermatitis owner’s manual. It goes over many aspects of finally getting your skin under control.

Specific supplements have also be shown to keep the skin well moisturized. The only two that I actually stuck with on an almost regular basis Vitamin C and Vitamin D. Fish oil and hyaluronic acid are also amazing, however I try to get my share of these two from food.

Living in a coastal city I have access to fresh affordable fish on a daily basis which supplies me all the fish oil I need.

Now the hyaluronic acid might seem a little herded to get in food, but the supplements that contain it are total crap (stay away). After looking around I found out that sweet potatoes, yams, and squash actually contain hyaluronic acid and in good quantities. Ever since switching to them for a good portion of my carbohydrates, my skin is much better. In fact I can almost see immediate results after binging on sweet potatoes or yams.

Also take a closer look at the rest of your skin care regimen. Most soaps on the market are highly drying. After getting away from using soaps on my face and switching to only small amounts of an oil free cleanser my skin is typically moist and supple all on its own. When your skin is practically clean as is and you trip away its natural (very hard to produce) oil, it makes sense that your skin will be dry.

My Favourite Moisturizer That Works for Seborrheic Dermatitis

Now for the list I promised earlier, here are my favourite moisturizers in descending order.

1. Biom8 a solution I had to create when Restoraderm stopped working

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After using Restoraderm (mentioned next) for about a year, my results started to decline and seborrheic dermatitis started to return. Not 100% sure why this occurred, but many individuals reported similar experiences (results being fantastic and then tapering off).

Luckily, at this time I had been attempting to write a book on seborrheic dermatitis and was compiling hundreds of medical research papers on the subject. And this research combined with careful analysis of the Restoraderm patent (plus several others) allowed me to formulate my own solution which was specifically targeted at resolving seborrheic dermatitis.

The solution has been extremely effective, is all natural and at it’s core a unique combination of various fatty acids. The best part for me, was that it seems to have been able to fully restore my skin and even under close examination everything appears healthy. Currently, I haven’t even washed my face with anything except water for almost 2 month.

However, I was skeptical if the formulation would work for others the same way it worked for me. Initial samples were sent out to the community here at SkinDrone and similar results to mine were reported back. As a result, I have decided to make the solution available to the everyone else unfortunate enough to have to deal with seborrheic dermatitis. More information can be found on the Biom8 website: http://www.biom8.com/

2. Cetaphil Restoraderm a gentle moisturizing lotion

Restoraderm Replenishing Moisture Lotion

An amazing lotion I discovered shortly after writing this post. At a random visit to a neighbourhood clinic one physician noticed my skin. She came up to me and said she used to have a similar issue. She procedude to give me a bunch of sample of products to try and noted this one specifically (never even got around to trying the other samples).

The Restoraderm lotion is very light and quickly absorbs in to the skin. It’s labeled purpose is to treat eczema and dry irritated skin so it looks like it was specifically designed for to help with these sorts of conditions. One thing to note is that Amazon.com has the same lotion as mine, but the ingredients list is different. The ingredients list on my sample bottles is identical to the ones specified on their official website. Not sure if the Amazon.com is the new formula, a different product, or the old formula. Also the labelling of these is strange, the one I’ve been using is “Replenishing Moisture Lotion”, but their official website has one labeled “Eczema Calming Body Moisturizer” and one labeled “Skin Restoring Moisturizer” (ingredients seem identical).

3. Raw honey as a natural moisturizer

Raw honey one of my favorite moisturizers

 

Creates a sticky situation, but when diluted with boiled water and left on the skin for several hours the results are amazing. This is my go to method. All the other stuff I have tried does not even come close. If used on a regular basis this method is phenomenal. Also one very strange thing I found, is that if I use regular tap water this method is so-so. If I used boiled water and then rinse off with boiled water, then this method is hard to beat.

4. Gold bond healing for quick results

Gold bond ultimate healing moisturizer

 

Contains parabens and other things I pointed out are not that great, however if I need a moisturizer this works great and the dermatitis has never reacted poorly to it. When applied after a shower it has a very soothing effect and locks in moisture exceptionally well. Even now that my facial skin is soft and moist on its own, I keep this around for the hands in dry season (personally don’t wear gloves in the winter and hands can become dry).

5. Diluted glycerin a natural low cost moisturizer

 

Can be amazing, but I never use it repeatedly. Seems to be amazing on first use, but quickly angers the seborrheic dermatitis if used repeatedly.

Glycerin as a low cost moisturizer

6. Cerave moisturizing lotion for occasional use

Cerave Moisturizing Lotion

Great stuff, very diluted, contains parabens, but is never made my seborrheic dermatitis act up. It claims to contain hyaluronic acid and ceramides which on paper look amazing. However, I never really witness crazy results from this lotion (more for maintenance purposes). When using this stuff I found that less is more and when diluted with boiled water it makes it much better. This lotion was also very ineffective as a hand moisturizer.

If you have any questions or have found something that works for your seborrheic dermatitis, please drop it in the comments below.

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78 Responses to “7 Tips to Finding Moisturizer That Works for Seborrheic Dermatitis”

  1. sheree Profile Photo
    sheree

    I have scalp psoriasis and have been suffering over two years. Over the counter shampoos,various oils, prescribed medications and now my doctor is thinking of monthly injections which I refused due to the side effects. What next? I am exhausted! Maybe aloe Vera plant, dead sea salt; I don’t want to feed the malesseza which I think I have been by applying olive oil, coconut oil, aquaphor.Please advise. The stinging and itching is continuous.

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    Marcia Purse

    My seborrhea is worst in a very small area under my right eye, so the honey treatment might be the way to go. But how much honey to how much water? And does the mixture keep?

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    Laci

    Are you able to let me know if these are safe ingredients for SD? I’m recently diagnosed but have been suffering for a year with horrible facial breakouts. I’m researching new makeup but feel overwhelmed with the ingredient lists. I’m looking into younique pressed powder foundation and primer. I have photos of the ingredient list that I could provide. Thanks so much

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    Jess

    I have been using vaseline and coconut oit omg i thought it was helping but it’s all over my chest and neck and face and back and little bit on my stomach. Dry flaky itch patch skin and i hate it.

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    Sheila webb

    I have had seborrhea dermatitis for most of my life only at the top of my nose down the side and on my chin. It comes with a burning itch which I have been using a fragrance free baby cream which does take the pain away but leaves me withmy skin peeling and looking very dry.I very interested in trying the honey and if that doesn’t work looking at the suggested

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    susan

    0%fat kefir ,especially strained for use of the whey only which contains the lactoferrin. Dissolves the chitin layer of the fuI ngus by binding iron, I think. Highest levels of lactoferrin is found in human breastmilk , tears, and saliva.

    I cured my grand daughter’s cradle cap in 24hours with a yogurt scalp mask. Her mother could have cured it with her own breastmilk.! The baby’s doctor had her mother using Selsun Blue for months. I had been doing my routine of yogurt and kefir for two years , at this point, so I knew EXACTLY what to do. I have never been helped by a dermatologist. They are clueless.

    I use kefir to “shampoo” and to wash my face and body by letting it sit as a mask for as long as possible. An hour or more over my entire body. And also put the kefir or whey on my face during the day and leave it on for hours at a time.

    The whey does not leave a white film and is not noticeable at all. You might could wear it under makeup, but I actually would not recommend the wearing of makeup with SD.

    I also avoid oils of any kind as I am sensitive /allergic to all forms of coconut oil, so I cannot use the mct oil that would otherwise be an option.

    I have familial sensitivity/allergy to fowl , especially eggs, and I believe to carob and to chocolate. Histamines are a trigger for many other symptoms in my life. Seeking out what you might be sensitive/allergic to is the most important thing , to avoid chasing your tail as you trouble shoot this problem . The trigger from the inflammation of the immune response. Papules. Ugly oosing red sights that then coelesce with the SD.

    -Avoid bad stress. Actively engage in good stress or challenge. Don’t worry. Be happy.

    -Avoid the oil cleansing method.

    -Do not give blood . Leave that to the healthy citizens because you cannot afford the stress to your obviously compromised immune system !

    -Drink plenty of water.

    -“Dry Body Brushing” to bring blood flow and nutrients to the skin . Be gentle. Different brushes for different parts of your body. Wash them often. The kefir also has lactic acid which is a genle exfoliant. No need to moisturise or add another layer of gunk on my skin.

    -Raw Manuka Honey mask . At least a 17 rating on the scale of activity.

    -Witch hazel has amazing ability to break up a bacterial biofilm. The older you are, the more likely you are to have biofilms. Seek one not processed with alcohol. Or collect leaves and young twigs to make your own “sun tea” for your face and scalp. As a mouthwash etc. . Tannins(histamine) is less concentrated in the leaves than in the bark for those with an issue with that.

    -Do not disturb the acid mantle of the skin. No soap or shampoo of any kind. Not castile either. Even the conditioners have silicone that blocks the skin from breathing and gives the fungus a place to proliferate. This is a very important point. You don’t want anything between the actives in the kefir and the fungus. Silicone does help to detangle and repel dust and dirt on the hair, so that your hair stays “cleaner” longer , however.

    -Bathe EVERY night. If at all possible, do the kefir body mask every night. Ears and everywhere. I soak my feet also. The kefir will deal with any foot fungus and or roughness that you have and leave your feet very soft.! I sit in the warm bathroom and listen to a podcast for at least an hour. You could put a towel on your head and a house coat on to go about your evening too. It is not worth the cost of the kefir if you are not willing to let it have time to do its’ work.
    When you start to rub and rinse off the kefir , that is now bound up with your body debris , keep at it and you will reach a point where you feel the debris sloughing off. I just use my hands and fingers because it is the gentlest. I can monitor the pressure and feel the old skin sloughing off. You need to stay in the shower or keep the wet conditions, long enough for this to take place. I don’t have a bathtub.

    Sometimes I don’t have time for a kefir treatment , so I rinse and rub with water only to wash as much of the sebum and then the dead skin layer away as possible . Be gentle, but effective. It takes just as long ,for all of this rinsing and rubbing , as it does for a shampoo and condition. It takes warm water to do an effective job of it , but you will not get to a “squeaky clean” . That would be over cleansing. You will get past any greasy feeling, however, as the waxy sebum is washed away along with the dead skin.

    A final rinse of a tiny bit of acv in quart of cool water. I soak my 36″ locks in it for maybe three minutes, and then pour the rest over my body. No conditioner is ever necessary.! The acidity smoothes the cuticle making the brushing out a breeze. If you have dry or curly hair, I would use mct oil if you can get away with it. I can’t though.

    -I will put a layer of kefir or kefir whey on my face even after my bath, and then wipe it off before bedtime. That application of the kefir is THE most effective application of the day . I believe it is so effective because I have washed off all the excess sebum and oil, then the actives in the kefir can get up close to the fungus , and my skin might be softer from the bath and more receptive.

    My skin is greatly improved.
    After 20 years of alopecia , that was not SD related but made worse by the dandruff shampoos , my hair is not falling out anymore and has filled back in .!
    I do have a bit of a crusty scalp but not ever itchy or dandruf .
    If I used the kefir scalp mask every night, I believe that would do it for me.

    Is this a cure? No. I believe that SD is a gut problem and an immune problem triggered by an extremely stressful event or illness or a genetic weakness, and made worse by modern habits and ideas about what it means to have a “clean” body.

    I once heard a famous gastroenterologist describe himself as a dermatologist. The audience laughed and he in reply said ” I am . I am a dermatologist.!” . Soooooo true. Inside skin and outside skin , but it is a continuous system of skin .

    That is my story and i’m sticking to it.!

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      Marilyn

      Hi Susan, I am very interested in your process of using the Kiefer. We have been making Kiefer with whole milk with the understanding that the grains thrive better in whole fat milk. We have had some beneficial results using the kefir as food, but would like to understand better how you use it on your skin. You also mentioned using Apple cider vinegar In a rinse but for dry hair you mentioned a different abbreviation that I’m not familiar with. Could you tell me what that is and how you use it.
      Thank you for sharing.

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    John

    I like the idea of using diet to control or eliminate SD. Anyone tried replacing sugar with honey in their diet?
    Michael, I noticed you never mentioned any Neutrogena products, such as T-Sal. Feedback, anyone?
    Lastly, thanks for all the info you provided, Michael!

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    Cheryl

    I have SD really bad, hair, eyebrows, face, ears, and a little on the arm and neck. What’s causing this is an overgrowth of yeast I guess, and it’s important to consider changing your diet. After eliminating certain foods and drinking lots of water within 3-5 days you will see a change. You can buy as many creams and try as many remedies but you must first treat what’s on the inside (the root). When I eat healthy, the flakes subside and the redness goes away, but it’s about being consistent. No juices…no sodas! You will feel depleted from time to time but it’s so worth it. While maintaing a healthy diet products with aloe can help. I use Ultimate Gold Bond with aloe.

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      Annie

      That’s helpful and I think you are totally correct. If I eat too much sugar (yeast LOVES sugar) and or use nicotine it flares up guaranteed. I’ve been fighting SD for about 3 years. I’ve used ACV, Vicks vapor rub, tea tree oil, frankinsense oil, oregano oil, witch hazel and MANY others. What I’ve learned is that a lot of this stuff will work FOR A WHILE then you need to switch it up. I’m quite sure it fights off the yeast for an undetermined amount of time and then the yeast overcomes the treatment and comes back. I don’t know how many times I’ve said to my husband “I finally stopped the skin dandruff” only to have it flare back up again. Currently I’m using a product from Amazon called Honey Skin and though I didn’t think it was worth a hoot at first I’ve been using it for a couple months, I’m only 1/2 way through the jar and so far so good! Now currently my skin freaked out, turned all red and is crunchy dry so I don’t know if this Honey Skin cream is getting ready to fail on my or what. Lately I’ve added like not even half a drop of Oregano oil when I apply it. WARNING: oregano oil burns like hell! You seriously need to use like 1/5 of a drop starting out or your face will burn worse than anything you’ve ever tried. It does seem to help but like I said it all works for a while then the yeasts overcomes.

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    Helen

    Hi there, just wondering if the Cetaphil restoaderm is safe to be used on the face? Or is it only for the body?

    Thanks! Xx

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    Matt

    Michael,

    Question regarding what you’ve read about raw honey. I read the abstract of the study you’ve referenced, but was wondering if you have a copy of the entire article from the medical journal. I’m curious when it was said of those that continued (shows success with initial treatment) with the longer term treatment that all had no recurrence, was that only during the treatment or did no recurrence happen post the 6 month of longer term treatment.

    I’ve also read of others that have had success using oil of oregano (topically) and was curious if you came across any information regarding it as a possible treatment.

    Thanks

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    Judy Wilson

    I started having skin problems for a while when I found out that I have seborrheic dermatitis. It helps to know what I should be looking for in lotions that can treat it. Looking for lotions that have ingredients like aloe and calendula is good to know. I’ll check for those ingredients while I’m shopping for a new lotion.

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    Martin

    Really like the article, thank you for educating me! I suffer from SD, usually around my goatee, especially when I trim it. I have tried many products, but not much luck controlling, except when I use a steroid cream.

    I’m trying to purchase the Cetaphil product you mention here, but can’t seem to determine which one you recommend, as there are many “Restoraderm” products. Is is the body lotion, or can you provide the specific name on the bottle?

    Also, would you recommend using a pre-shave oil or another product before shaving, would this help reduce the redness / rash after shaving ?

    Thank you.

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    Dhine

    Hi Michael,

    Just wondering if ever you try ACV? I have SD on my eyebrow and now its on my chin as well, its really itchy and flaky. I tried coconut oil but it makes worst! Then make some research and i found Apple cider Vinegar. I am using the Cerave which is ok but still i have very dry face and itchy face. I am thinking to switch to cethapil gentle cleanser and moisturising cream. I will wait for your reply thank you.

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      Michael A.

      Hi Dhine,

      Sorry for such a delay in response.
      My attempts with apple cider vinegar never really gave me the results I was after. Plus it was a fairly stinky treatment for everyday usage for me.
      Additionally, through out my time with this website most people who have had any success with this method still looked for something easier to use.

      There is a post that talks about my experience with ACV and you can find it here: Treating Seborrheic Dermatitis With Apple Cider Vinegar

      Since the summer of 2015, I’ve been using the following method with great results: My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen 2.0. Some others on the website report good results with Nystatin and you can find lot’s of discussion here: Nystatin A Potential Seborrheic Dermatitis Treatment.

      Hope that helps and you can finally something that works for you. Best of luck!
      If you find the time, would be great to hear how things unfold.

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    James

    Hi every moisturiser seems to make things worse. I have been moisturising my t zone for years but maybe this is what is making it worse. Also have tried all medicated creams but none have done much to improve things. My t zone is not red. It is flaking and itching/irritated. Maybe all the moisturising is adding to the problem? Have heard people have succes with sea salt in water as a face wash. Have you heard of this or AVC on a cotton wool pad applied to the face? Your thoughts would be Much appreciated.

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    Anthony

    I really like this info given- I suffer from eczema and Seborrheic Dermatitis. I am allergic to coconut and all properties of coconut so I find it very hard for many years to find a good lotion with no coconut oils or properties( cocoate, caprilic Triglicerides copypolymer etc) I used to use the old vaseline intensive care lotion yellow bottle fro the late 90’s but this has now been discontinued and a new vaseline lotions are introduced with new ingredients that don’t agree with me. Would really love more advice as it making me more depressed especially at work having to face customers. Please help- I’m open to everything..

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  16. huyen nguyen Profile Photo
    huyen nguyen

    hello, Thank you for your post. I’m asian. I’m a student. Can u tell me how much cetaphil restoraderm costs? I see it on amazon. Its so expensive, about $70. You buy it with that price, dont you?

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  17. huyen nguyen Profile Photo
    huyen nguyen

    how much does cetaphil restoraderm cost? I see it on amazon. Its so expensive, about $70. You buy it with that price, dont you?

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Huyen,

      Here in Canada they sell it at Wal-Mart. Both the cleanser and the moisturizer cost about $10-15 each. Amazon.com has them listed for roughly the same price as well. Not sure where you are located, but perhaps internationally it becomes much more expensive.

      However, my regimen has currently changed from using Restoraderm products. A more detailed outline of my current regimen can be found here:
      My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen 2.0

      Hope that helps and best of luck!

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  18. Christopher Profile Photo
    Christopher

    Hello,
    I’m 29 and have SD. I’ve been using a Jericho black sea mud soap now and it will contain it with minimal flare ups. Recently my cheeks have been burning as if they are too dry. What is a good facial wash to try first as well as moisturizer? I also get the flakes in my ears, good to hear I’m not the only one.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Christopher,

      Thanks for checking in and providing your experience.
      Out of all the commercial products out there, the Cetaphil Restoraderm line was my favourite for control my SD.
      It provide good results for almost a year (skin remained SD free). A more detailed outline of my experience with these products can be found here:

      My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen

      After a while, this approach seemed to loose effectiveness. This pushed me to keep doing research and then I ended up creating my own solution. A more detailed outline and overview of it can be found here:

      My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen 2.0

      Others who have used it have reported similar results to me. However, there are also people who it didn’t seem to work for. This is likely due to a different set of microbes being at work on these individual’s skin.

      Hope that helps.
      Best of luck.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Cindy,

      Many users have reported using the Biom8 on the scalp with great success. Personally, I’ve only been using it on my facial area (and hairline). However, these is a version of Biom8 in the making specifically formulated for scalp applications (some may argue that it may not even be needed as the original has been effective enough). This scalp version is planned to be release sometime next week.

      Hope that helps.
      Please let me know if you have any other question.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Tony,

      A huge thanks for your comment! Quite an embarrassing mistake, but my knowledge has been developing significantly since the writing of this post. Have gone ahead and corrected throughout.

      At first this blog was simply a collection of my own thoughts and general notes I thought may be helpful. However, in the last year my approach has become much more academic. The eBook is primarily based on medical papers and provides a much more deep understanding of the condition. Will likely need to go back through each post and look for these sorts of mistakes.

      Have emailed gone ahead and emailed you a copy of the eBook. Let me know what you think.

      Thanks again and best of luck in the New Year!

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  19. chris Profile Photo
    chris

    Interesting info, particularly regarding the spread of the seborrheic bacteria by certain ingredients.

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  20. Shannon Profile Photo
    Shannon

    Thank you for this article! A quick question (s) regarding Seborrheic Dermatitis 1.) in your research have you come across why certain areas of the face have ‘flares’ more that others? like, are some areas more prone to SD? The last 2 years I had a ‘breakout” of SD on my eyelids and moves up to the brows during winter months, went to the dermatologist and got diagnosed with SD, but this year it started in late Spring on the right side of my forehead, moving to the laugh lines around the mouth and chin. But, now AGAIN the eye area, lids, brows, under the eyes and the outside corner of the eyes. 2.) what if anything is safe to use around the eyes? The rash, redness, flaking skin is all bothersome and lowers your self esteem, but nothing is comparable to the B U R N I N G associated with SD on and around your eye area. The dr’s want to give steroid creams for this , but the # 1 caution is NOT to get it on, in or around the eyes??? I’ve spent endless hours researching but not coming across anything or anyone with it around the eyes and suggestions of what helps?

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Shannon,

      From everything I’ve read so far it appears that heat attracts the issues. Areas of heat produce more oil, attract more microbial activity and as a result produce seborrheic dermatitis.
      Hard to say why it moves around the face. I experienced this as well. What I believe happens is that the skin in that area may become good at defending itself, so the microbes react and relocate their activity to a different region that is also viable for them.

      The area around the eyes is very tricky. Currently I am using the Biom8 fairly close to the eyes, but I make sure to never actually get it in my eye as it would likely cause irritation.

      Overall though I think a comprehensive approach is necessary for long term results. If you haven’t yet, I recommend you take a look at the chapter drafts for a book I’ve been working on:

      It goes into significant detail about a variety of associated topics.

      Hope that helps and all the best.

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  21. Stephen Profile Photo
    Stephen

    Hi, first time on your site. Just wanted to tell you what has helped me. I am 29 yr old male and have SD flare-ups around mustache area (worse when it grows, so I keep it shaved) and front scalp/hairline. Being a typical guy with minimal skincare products, I don’t moisturize everyday like I should, but when this started 3 years ago, I already had some Simple Rich Moisturizer for use with mild acne treatment (I think it’s a UK brand that came to US retailers a few years ago. I get it at Walmart). It works like magic for me. When it flares and gets even worse from the irritation of shaving, it’s very noticeable red blotches between my mouth and nose. Looks horrible. But, I just use the Simple moisturizer, it burns slightly for a minute,and literally within hours, the redness has faded to pink and does not hurt or itch. After doing that twice a day for just 2 days, and it’s completely gone. No signs of it, just even, healthy looking skin. I’m sure if I was more diligent in using it every day, I’d probably never see it again. Anyway, I admit I didn’t read all the article information, and so I don’t know if Simple has any concerning ingredients. But, for me, it heals it so well and fast, I’m always surprised it’s not a medicated cream of some kind. Hope maybe it can help some others.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Stephen,

      Thanks for the tip. It seems that everyones skin is different and once they can find a moisturizer that works for them, things drastically improve. I’m thinking of buying a large variety of different products and putting together a sort of tester pack so people can find something that’s right for them. What do you think of this idea?

      Is this the cream you are using? Overall the ingredients seem to look good from what I know so far.

      Thanks again for the tip.

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  22. eliza caplan Profile Photo
    eliza caplan

    How much honey to water?
    Also do you know if there is any connection between seborrheic dermatitis and being on immunosuppression? (I’m immunosuppressed due to kidney transplant.)

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  23. Mehdi Profile Photo
    Mehdi

    Hi Michael,

    This is to give you a big thank you. I’ve been suffering from SD for 15 years on and off and recently I was frustrated that nothing works on my skin anymore. Being hopeless, I thought this time I’m going to search what other SD patients do and then I found your post and Cetaphil Restoraderm. This is like magic. I’ve been using both body wash and moisturizer for two weeks and haven’t seen my skin like this for a long time. So thank you for sharing your experience and suggestions. Hope one day there will be a permanent cure for SD.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Mehdi,

      Sorry for the delay in reply.
      Glad to to hear the Restoraderm worked out, it’s crazy how well it works for some one us.

      In terms of long term treatment, I may have found something a little more conclusive.
      Still a working hypothesis, but will update if my testing shows results.

      All the best.

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  24. Tasnova Alam Profile Photo
    Tasnova Alam

    Hi there, First of all thank you so much for the article. It was a great article I must say. I’m the one suffering from SD for 5/6 years almost. I wanted to know a thing from you as you gave so many useful information here. I recently wanted to ordered a facial wash from the Shea terra Organic. The ingredients of the face wash contains some oils like- Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Rosa Mosqueta (Virgin Rose Hip) Oil, Palm Kernel Oil and some ash like – Yoruba Black Soap, Cocoa Pod Ash, Plantain Peel Ash, Camwood Bark, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter and some other ingredients. So what do you think of using those oils as a face wash? Does it can make the yeast to overgrow too?

    Thanks in advance!

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Tasnova,
      It’s actually hard to say. From all the medical literature it would seem that yes oils do make the yeast grow.
      However, the Restoraderm I’ve been using actually has shea butter and sunflower seed oil.
      Overall though, I think the more mild the formula is, the better.

      From all the natural face washes this one actually worked quite well for me. I actually thought that it would be my long term solution. I purchased 3 bottles, but only used one of them.
      In the end, I kind of gave up on it. It helped around 95%, but my face would still get irritation sometimes.

      Hope that helps. Let me know how the Shea Terra works out.
      All the best!

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      • Tasnova Alam Profile Photo
        Tasnova Alam

        Thank you so much for your response. One thing I figured out about SD is you need to try something out to know what actually works for you! From my little research I could see that there is not any single solution but you have to find your own. This is quite depressing, cause you have to go thorough a lot of trail and error to figure it out which works for you! Moreover having SD means there is something going wrong inside your body!

        Anyway I ordered Shea terra already which may take a while to come in my hand (a month! Sigh!). I’ll let you know after I use it for a while. Actually I ordered it because most of the reviewer says it helps them in cleaning dead skin cell. and people prone to SD need to remove their dead skin cells for their own good. But may be I won’t use it regularly. Let me see it’s effect on my skin first! I also ordered dead sea salt for my scalp and face treatment purpose. And I’m actually excited to try this out as so many people claimed that it helped them to tame their SD. Wish Me luck! And Thank you so much, you have been very helpful.

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        • Michael A. Profile Photo
          Michael A.

          Hi Tasnova,
          Yeah, the uniqueness of each person makes it really difficult.
          Another really annoying issue, is the amount of incorrect information about it online.
          The Restoraderm I’ve been using has had a fairly good % of positive feedback. However, even with this there are a few people who didn’t seem to have success with it.
          For me I believe it was definitely part of my recovery. It helped keep my skin normal enough and allowed me to better understand my own internal causes/triggers (without having to deal with the day-to-day issues).

          One thing to keep in mind that with seborrheic dermatitis your skin cell turnover is greatly increased (https://goo.gl/qQpBT4). In many cases it is even shorter than that of a kid.
          For this reason I believe excessive scrubbing, washing, and any other method which acts to remove dead skin makes things worse. Personally I think reducing the skin cell turnover rate is what people should focus on.

          Here is related piece of a conversation I was having with another community member earlier this week:

          As for the histamine, it’s definitely a part of it. However, I think from everything I’ve learned so far the problem is much, much more complex. So far it’s looking like a mix of hormonal factors (cortisone and histamine seem to be the most examined), internal anti-oxidant production (particularly bilirubin and glutathione), and a large diversity of other factors. However, everything in the body is interconnected and as a whole the system is basically malfunctioning.

          The seborrheic dermatitis is just a result that shows up on the skin. What happens locally on the skin, is skin cell production is over-stimulated. The turnover rate of the effected skin cells becomes even greater than infant skin. My hypothesis is that with such a rapid turn-over skin cells are simply not given enough time to properly mature and develop. Thus, foreign bacteria are more easily able to penetrate the outer most layer of the skin. Personally it’s my opinion that the recommended use of anti-fungals and antibiotics conceals the issue by removing foreign bacteria, but can push things further into progression. My belief is based on fairly new medical studies which have demonstrated that almost 90% of the skin cells are actually dormant. Only ~10% are actually metabolically active. Most antibiotic and anti-fungals work by inhibiting the reproduction of bacteria. However, the ~90% of dormant skin cells aren’t actually doing anything, so they remain unaffected. This might give the exact circumstances needed for foreign bacteria to invade more territory.

          However it’s still so hard to understand how all of these factors at play all together. Taking internal anti-fungals seems to produce fairly stable results. Perhaps this is because it is more effective at killing the dormant bacteria as it stays in the system for longer periods of time?

          Another strange aspect is how does it all start? Is it internal factors -> skin infection -> leading to more internal factors and basically closing the loop on itself.

          With all that said. My own recovery was actually fairly simple. I just went back to basics.
          Stopped reading crap online, stopped using everything except a gentle cleanser and moisturiser, added l-glutamine (to hopefully stimulate normal skin cell production and glutathione levels), and went back to eating food I love.

          Hope that helps and let me know how the Shea Terra works out.

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  25. israel Profile Photo
    israel

    Hi, thanks for this site it’s amazing.

    My problem is solely on the folds of my nose so I was wondering if you recommend using two different moisturizers – one for the affected area and the other for my face.

    I’m thinking of buying the one that you recommend along with another one since I have very oily skin and the cetaphil one says it’s mostly for dry skin. If you have any recommendations on a good moisturizer for oily skin that would be great because I’ve read that certain moisturizers can also influence the problem.

    Thanks a lot.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Friend,

      Honestly, it’s super hard to recommend anything. It seems that seborrheic dermatitis is super elusive. For me personally the Restoraderm line of products have been really good, but it seems like some people had issues.

      Overall tough, I personally believe it’s really dependent on how you approach your current treatment. If you think it might fail, you kind of set your self up for it. Seems kind of un-scientific in a way, but after researching this thing for so long all my thoughts are in this directions. Like honestly, what the heck is this thing: Neurodermatitis ?

      I’m currently using the Cetaphil Restoraderm products for my whole facial area. Super small amounts though. For example, for this past year I typically have only wash and moisturised once a day. When I do wash, I do it super quick and with cold water. And when applying the moisturiser I use the smallest amount possible (when the face is still moist, typically a tiny bit is more than enough to cover the whole face).

      Hope that helps. Check out the community if you want it discuss things further.
      All the best and thanks for checking in.

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    • Tracy Profile Photo
      Tracy

      I had it in my nasal labial folds too for 6 months.
      It’s gone now.
      I used daktarin twice a day for 1 month and followed an anti fungal diet/anti candida. A took a lot of supplements like garlic, fish oil etc.
      Now I use La Roche Posey kerium d s cream

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      • Michael A. Profile Photo
        Michael A.

        Hi Tracy,
        Thanks for checking in!
        Glad to hear things worked. If you have the opportunity, think about joining the community.
        My approach doesn’t seem to work for everyone, but with the input of others I feel like a more comprehensive approach can be designed.

        Thanks again and great to hear from you after all this time.

        PS. In terms of diet. The things that have helped me the most have been returning back to basics. I find that the more simple the food I eat, the better my skin feels.

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  26. Christine Profile Photo
    Christine

    My doctor had suggested Cetaphil about a year ago. It seemed to work wonderfully until this past winter when I started to break out in hives. As with Michael, I have tried so many different lotions I was getting very down and very frustrated. I do believe my hormonal changes have contributed to my SD. As well, I notice that when I have dairy, I seem to have flare-ups. I, too, tried the coconut oil and the first couple of days my skin felt amazing yet it was still dry. I am still trying to find something that works for more than a couple of days -right now it’s Vaseline and hydrocortisone cream.
    Thank you so much for posting your experiences with different remedies….it’s actually soothing to know I’m not alone with this battle!

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hey Christine,
      Thanks for checking in. From what I saw while researching Vaseline can have a negative effect for people (based on forums). However, technical the bacteria that is believed to be the cause can not feed off the specific lipids found in Vaseline. The most I’ve ever sued hydrocortisone was for about 7 days at the very beginning when it all started (from what I understand it can have negative long term effects on the skin).

      Hopefully you find something to finally get it under control again.

      In regards to the cetaphil, was it the same one? I have tried the regular one previously as well with good result, but this one seems to take it to a new level.

      All the best.

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  27. ferhan Profile Photo
    ferhan

    Thank you for all these information i have rosacea and i got SD since 3 or 4 weeks .my doctor prescribe me elledol cream that i have bee using since 3 days. it is the same .it is really frustrated to have this condation they seems never go away. my friend recommend me apple cider vinegar. i will try and i let you know.
    thank you again that is so relieve to find this much info about SD.
    good luck

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Ferhan

      Thank for taking the time to leave a comment and thank you for the feedback
      Personally I haven’t tried the Elledol Cream, so I can’t really comment on how it compares to the other creams I’ve tried.

      If I had to start over again the first thing I would try is the face wash and moisturiser I currently use (Cetaphil Restoraderm). I tried to outline the rest of the details on my current approach in this post. Maybe that could help.

      Apple Cider Vinegar seems to be really great for some people. Through this website alone I have talked to at least 6 people who have confirmed it’s potential. For me I couldn’t find the perfect balance though. Check out the comments section of the ACV post for some feedback from others.

      Additionally you might find this post useful. It’s basically a summary of almost everything I tried. Some stuff is missing, but it’s a huge list of stuff as is. Hopefully it’s of use to others going down the same route.

      If you have the time, any updates on your progress would be a huge benefit to any other readers.

      Best of luck and hope you find something that works.

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  28. Nikki Profile Photo
    Nikki

    HI, have you used Cetaphil’s DERMACONTROL Oil Control Foam Wash and moisturizer? I got the foam wash as a sample once. I’m not sure if it improved my SD but it definitely did not worsen it at all. Just wondering how they compare if you have tried them.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Nikki,
      Haven’t used that product, but have a sample of it somewhere as well. A few of the oil control cleansers I did try were not very effective.

      The Restoraderm is hard to explain. Its very mild and doesn’t seem like it would do much. However, a little bit goes a long way for me.

      Hope that helps. Additionally I’m much more aware of my skin, thoughts, diet and body. Anxiety and stress (physical or emotional) seem to be quite powerful triggers.

      All the best.

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        • Michael A. Profile Photo
          Michael A.

          Hi Nikki,

          Thank you for the update.
          Glad to hear that the Restoraderm has worked for you as well.

          Has your skin kept improving since?
          Also are you just using the wash or the moisturiser as well?

          All the best.

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          • Nikki Profile Photo
            Nikki

            I have had SD for about a year now. I tried ACV for a few months and it didn’t help. My rash was pretty bad. For the past month, I have only been using Restoraderm wash and moisturizer and taking oral coconut oil supplements and the SD is going away. Now, the rash is 1/3 of what it used to be.

          • Michael A. Profile Photo
            Michael A.

            Hi Nikki,
            Glad to hear the Restoraderm helped as well.
            Are you following a similar regimen described at the bottom here (ie. small amount used, letting face air dry, and such)?
            In terms of the oral coconut supplements, are you taking caprylic acid or something else?

            If you find the time, leave details on your approach on my most complete write up on that treatment here as well (will help readers of strictly that one).
            All the best.

          • Nikki Profile Photo
            Nikki

            I haven’t been that diligent with the air-dry etc. method, and have just been putting it on like normal lotion: Wash with Restoraderm using cool water, pad dry with face cloth, pea size amount Restoraderm lotion all over my face, go to school 🙂 And I have a scrubby shower cloth for the flacks that I use to lather Restoraderm wash and scrub my nose area with.

            For the coconut oil, I found in Shoppers, a huge bottle of organic coconut oil in gel capsules. When I first started, I got “die-off symptoms”, some bloating etc. but that does away.

            My SD is still about 1/3 of the size from when it was worst. Some friends say it’s not that noticeable, some say it just looks like mild acne or I have cold. However, it’s not really improving anymore.

            What I did notice is that after drinking a lot of alcohol, it gets a lot worse. So I do feel that what we put IN our bodies matters more than what we put ON.

          • Michael A. Profile Photo
            Michael A.

            Hi Nikki,

            This reply was a long time coming. Sorry for the delay.
            The effect it (Restoraderm) has for you seems different then for me. This whole time I’ve never had to actually scrub any flakes off. Except inside the ears for some reason, but it never gets irritated or red there. However, my face has been clear this whole time I’ve been using it since last summer.

            The worst it has ever gotten was actually a few weeks ago. For the first time since last summer a few of the previously affected areas became slightly inflamed (luckily not flaking though). I attributed this to a really stressful time at work, unrealistic deadlines (work + school) and just general unrest (poor sleep, dehydration, lots of crappy food). However, I stepped back from everything and managed to calm things down and everything went back to normal almost immediately.

            Interesting to see you reporting die off symptoms from the coconut oil. Even when consuming large amounts (4-5 tablespoons) I didn’t notice anything except a little nausea from trying to digest a big chunk of fat :). Too be honest some of things people report as die off stuff on forums, just seems like the actual side effect to whatever they’ve taken. For example drinking too much alcohol can make someone puke their guts out, one could make the case that these are die off symptoms from the alcohol killing all the bad stuff :). Whenever I tried to find actual medical documentation regarding the “die-off” effect, there was little actual academic literature on the subject.

            Yeah your spot on with the last point. The Restoraderm helps me keeps things to a minimum and allows me to gently wash the face. However, being calm inside, being mindful of diet choices, and getting rid of toxic thought processes can have dramatic effects on many aspects of your health.

            The biggest issue with S/D is that it can create a horrible feedback loop. Especially with all the scary/misleading content out there. Thinking I had a crazy fungal infection in my system caused lots of stress. Accepting the thought that everything is alight inside, brought a huge amount of relief and calmness.

            Hope some of this can be of benefit.
            All the best. Stay in touch and let me know if you have any improvements.

    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Tracy,
      As per our email conversation, it looks like the way to go if you need a natural oil. Fractioned Coconut Oil looks like another term they use for MCT Coconut Oil, doesn’t look like theres any real difference. Here‘s the research paper that I originally got the idea/information from (didn’t include it in the email as I had to search for it again).

      If you end up getting the oil, let me know how it goes. All the best.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hard to say if its required. From the start I used them in combination. Has been working well, so had no reason to cut out the moisturizer.

      Never was a fan of using a moisturizer. I use only a tiny little bit each time. Only a few tiny drops a few minutes after washing my face. When the skin is still moist it spreads super well. To give you an idea of how little i use, about 8 months of constant usage and I’ve only used ~40ml.

      Check your local clinic and they likely have sample bottles. Especially pediatric (kids) clinics.

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  29. gamoses Profile Photo
    gamoses

    Thank you for taking the time to write all this up! And so clearly! Can’t believe how many different options there are to try. Hope to hit the jackpot as soon as possible. 🙂

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi there,
      Thank you for taking the time to say thanks. 🙂
      The options listed in the moisturizer article are just the tip of the iceberg. It’s hard to believe the amount of things I tried to get rid of it.
      Currently putting together a post trying to summarize all the treatments I’ve ever tried. Maybe that will helps other going down the same road.

      As far as moisturizers go I’ve currently been sticking to the Restoraderm Moisturizing Lotion (along with the cleanser) and it’s been working extremely well. However, when I was discussing it with another reader I noticed the ingredients list of the one sold on Amazon.com differ from the one I’ve been using. The ingredients list on their official page match my little sample bottles (haven’t needed to buy any yet).

      You can get a feel for how well it’s been going for me on some of the other comments here.

      Best of luck finding something that works for you. One of the biggest factors seems to be staying positive!
      Also one reader sent me an email with his experience. After trying all the stuff he can find, he came across one dermatologist who prescribed him Nystatin (a topical anti-fungal). Said he’s been using it ever since and it has made it go away. Will add details on his experience to the site in the next few days as well.

      Hope that helps and once again thanks for the feedback.
      Look forward to hearing any updates.

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    • gamoses Profile Photo
      gamoses

      I tried the honey masks, but the time and mess make it just too impractical. After half a dozen real three-hour sessions, I’ve switched to just wearing it during a shower 3-4 times a week. I really think it’s still helping, even if maybe not as much. Also, I think the biggest thing that’s worked for me is switching to Olay’s “moisturizing lotion for sensitive skin.” I liked most of the ones suggested here, but they didn’t work well under makeup. I also like Dr Lin’s daily hydrating gel at night. In six weeks, I’ve finally gotten the dermatitis back to a normal state where it’s not horribly peeling all the time. I think the flare up was started last summer when I went crazy for coconut oil and put it on my face daily. Lesson learned the hard way! Thanks again for your immense help with the research side of my quest to walk outside without a bag over my head. 🙂

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      • Michael A. Profile Photo
        Michael A.

        Hi Gamoses,

        Glad to hear your making progress.
        Thanks the update and for pointing out the make up thing, it was not an issue for me (male so no make up).

        Yeah completely agree with the honey masks. They are quite impractical for the modern lifestyle.

        In terms of the trigger, yeah I think it differers for people.
        For me I trace it back to when I started washing my face daily with commercial soaps (Ivory, Dove, etc). I think this could have messed the skin regular balance.

        Not sure if you saw my post complete post here (it is an attempt to sum up all my experiences).
        It contains basically everything I tried and towards the end it outlines my current approach (which has worked out extremely well for me).

        Hope it works out in the end and you find something that works day-in and day-out.
        Take care and let me know if you have any updates/questions.

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    • Michael A. Profile Photo
      Michael A.

      Hi Tracy,

      Wow, thank you for linking that article. When writing this post I was unsuccessful at finding the original article I mentioned.

      The one you provided is extremely similar in nature and also mentions that oleic acid is great for growing the yeast. The big difference is that in the one you sent over sesame seed oil was also considered a good growth medium for the yeast. This seems to contradict what I originally read. Which might be related to the specific type of oil they use. Maybe the roasted sesame oil is bad for growing it or the other way around (not sure).

      One thing to note is that I’ve been successfully using a moisturizing lotion which actually contains sesame seed oil. This sort of contradicts many things in these studies. So not really sure how that all works. My own theory is that if the oil is easy for the yeast to consume then it proliferates. However, if the skin (or the lotion) has certain components which make it hard for the yeast to feed off the oil, this allows the skin to use the oil to replenish itself as needed.

      Hope that helps. Will update if I finally find that study I read (will check through my universities database).
      Also look forward to hearing any updates.

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    kit

    Is facial foam bad for SD? How about oilatum bar soap? Does it feed the bacteria in SD? I also heard any cosmetic product DAT contain glycolic acid can irritate SD and also vitamin C and acne product? R u agree w/ dat? Pls rep ASAP? Tnx

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      Michael A.

      Hi Kit,
      To be honest it is really hard to give you a definite answer. Over the years I’ve read so much stuff on the internet say this many different things. However, I can say 100% that what might be bad for one person might work really well for another.

      Myself I have not used a single foaming cleanser that has helped with my seborrheic dermatitis. But shaving foam never irritated it and shaving actually improved it for me. Also things that contained oil seemed to be bad overall. Yet currently I’ve been using a lotion that contains sunflower oil for over 7 months with amazing success. You can see the details of my current approach here.

      When I tried a vitamin C serum, it was not very effective and actually irritated my seborrheic dermatitis. However, I’ve read one person who had amazing results with it. One thing I did notice is that supplementing with vitamin c does help to improve skin tone and keep inflammation down.

      Hope that helps. Let me know if you need more information.
      Take care.

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    Mark Jenkins

    I’m suffering from SD myself. I use Cerave. I like the thich cream from the tub much better than the lotion. I still get it bad and my nose is always red and peeling along the sides, but this is the best for me. I used to use aquafor, which was intense but after a while aggravated it. ACV doesn’t really work. Coconut oil doesn’t really work. Fasting I feel does help. Dairy and wheat and seem to aggravate it. I refuse to continue these specialty diets however. I bought a zinc cream on Amazon and hated it. I researched lithium gluconate and I’m interested in trying it out. I see a product on amazon called Sebovalis Facial Gel I am considering ordering. Have you tried lithium gluconate 8%? It’s $26 so don’t really want to throw cash away. These specialty lotions are a rip off and so far unsuccessful.

    I’m interested in your honey method as well as cetaphil wash and taking l-glutamine. In fact I just bought some raw honey over the weekend. I get peeling scalp too but have had great results with head and shoulder clinical strength. Selenium sulfide seems to be much better than the zinc options.

    I prefer to go a little more natural if possible. But ultimately I’m willing to do what works. When it flares up I’m desperate. It’s always a little red, but sometimes it’s like I have facial leprosy.

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      Michael A.

      Hi Mark,

      Cerave was great for me at first as well. However they were great only for a week or two after that they just stopped working. I’ve got a bottle of both the cleanser and the moisturizer here at home.

      Also have a tub of zinc cream from Amazon along with the same brand name soap. Those were great at first as well. Never used them for too long because they were way to strong. After usage the skin would feel strange and bare. Additionally their effectiveness deteriorated. For reference I don’t remember the brand name, but it’s the blue and white containers.

      Somewhere along the way I recall hearing something about lithium gluconate, but never tried it myself. To be honest though, from all the things I’ve came across in my research and everything I’ve tried it seems the most simple easily found work the best.

      In terms of all natural stuff raw honey was great. It worked most of the time, but it lost potency intermittently. Most of the other stuff wasn’t very sustainable. Baking soda or salt in the hair was quite good too, but I’m not using it at the moment.

      Right it’s been been about 7 months were the seborrheic dermatitis has been calm. Still some tiny flakes in the nasal folds and inside the ear after the shower, but nothing like before. My eyebrows are clear, forehead clear, facial tone is calm and not patchy. Additionally, I currently eat everything (except mostly stay away from dairy, but this was even before my seborrheic dermatitis), my daily skin routine takes about 1-2min, and I use a regular shampoo. Additionally I longer waste a ton of time online research for a treatment. When trying to treat it I tried giving up all kinds of stuff such as gluten containing goods, caffeine (even tea), citrus fruit and a ton of other things (tomatoes, bell peppers, fried food, etc.); Tried using all sorts of supplements (check some of the posts); and all sorts of other treatment methods.

      Currently my belief is that:

      • Salt and iodine balance in the body have an effect on the seborrheic dermatitis
      • Washing with cool water is best of the skin
      • Simple treatment methods work the best
      • Anti-fungal solutions destroy even the good protective layer of the skin, you need to constantly be using in order to sustain results
      • Looking back at your life and trying to see what was different before the seborrheic dermatitis is very effective

      Let me know if you have any questions.
      Also if you find the time, a follow up on your treatment results would be beneficial to other readers as well.

      Best of luck.

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    Mollie

    I have found the dead salt treatment to be working for me for scalp and face. I have also found that apple cider vinegar also helps and Aloe Vera as a moisturizer but I read that you do not recommend Aloe Vera Gel. I am going to try the honey and warm water for the face Have you any other home remedies for a face moisturizer. Can you email me your reply. I am 85 years old and this condition has been driving me crazy. Regards, Mollie

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      Michael A.

      This comment has also been directly emailed to you. I’m posting it here as well, just in case it might helps others as well.

      Hi Mollie,

      Thanks for leaving a comment on the website.
      It is encouraging to find others who are looking for a solution to their seborrheic dermatitis.

      First of all I will address the items you mentioned specifically:
      Dead sea salt caused my skin to sometimes become very dry and pale (had to be very careful not to make it too salty as this caused major redness). OverallI found it hard to get consistent results.
      Aloe vera is very popular and highly recommended by many. Personally each time I used it, my seborrheic dermatitis skin would go bright red. The flaking would stop, but the inflation seemed to increase. However, I only used the actual plant juice directly taken from fresh leaves. Perhaps this form was just too strong. Looking back now maybe a regular aloe vera based cream or moisturiser might have worked better.
      Apple Cider Vinegar cause the skin to smell of vinegar for short while. It also caused my skin to become much more pale and quite sensitive to sunlight. Concentration was key in order to see any results. Consistency was poor and on some occasions seborrheic dermatitis was hardly affected by application. Consuming it on a daily basis had pretty much no effect on the seborrheic dermatitis. It’s consumption did, however, seem to improve digestion and over made me feel good inside. You can see my full article on my experience with apple cider vinegar here.
      Secondly here is a summary my story with seborrheic dermatitis:

      Personally I am 24 and I’ve spent about 3 years suffering from the dermatitis.
      It mainly affected my scalp and face, but this caused many other issues in my daily life.

      Luckily after tons of research and experiments I managed to find something that worked for me.
      Currently it has been about 6 months without any flare ups.

      Sometimes a flake or two could appear or my scalp can get a bit of dandruff.
      However, it is rare and extremely mild. Nothing like the thick crusting and inflammation before.

      During my experimentation I believe I’ve tried every natural solution that was mentioned online. The two that worked the best and most consistently were Raw Honey Masks and Grapefruit Seed Extract as a face wash. I used these methods during separate periods.

      The Grapefruit Seed Extract was the first method I found which had sustained results for several months. I simply used a few drops with water as a face cleanser. Flakes disappeared and skin looked healthy. Then it stopped working and would only sometimes be effective. Also reading online I came across some articles that mentioned that the grapefruit seed extract actually contained some sort of disinfectant chemical (similar to hand sanitizer) which was the actual reason behind its effectiveness. Either way it stopped working for me so I stopped using it.

      Raw honey masks seem to both moisturise and cleanse the skin at the same time. After using the masks the skin was supple and well moisturised. The biggest problems with this treatment is it took about 3 hours each day, was a little messy, and if a few days were missed the seborrheic dermatitis would quickly return. Even after about a month or so of bi-daily use I always had to keep using it (otherwise dermatitis quickly returned). There were also times that it just didn’t do anything.

      Also one of the strangest and biggest things I noticed while fighting my seborrheic dermatitis is the illusive connection to food and diet. Often times it seemed that certain foods triggered flare ups and irritation. Fasting would cause the skin to fully heal and seborrheic dermatitis to go away. One time I went for about a week on just fruits and vegetables (no grains, meats, or dairy). During this week my skin was perfectly healthy even without using any topical treatments.

      In the end though, the whole food allergy thing proved to be a very hard path. Many of the diets caused issues with daily life and regular social eating. It was stressful to always restrict yourself from certain things and worry about the effect it could have on the dermatitis.

      Personally I believe trying to pin down foods that could be causing the seborrheic dermatitis actually enforced the idea and actually played a role in overall worsening of my condition.

      What has been keeping me free from seborrheic dermatitis has been a simple approach.

      My first step was to stop reading and researching online.

      Second I went and asked my friend in medical school what he would recommend for restoring the gut. He told me the supplement L-Glutamine is often used in medical cases. It is supposed to provide the gut with an abundance of the specific protein it needs to rebuild its walls. I purchased the powder form of it from Amazon and have been using it practically every single morning for the past 6 months. Each morning I wake up I drink a bit of water followed by a glass of water and about a teaspoon of L-Glutamine powder. Then I do some morning exercise and wait about 30 minutes before I eat breakfast.

      Third I went to my local pharmacy and asked for all the samples they had of cleansers and moisturisers. The gentleman working was very nice and he gave me about 15-20 different types of cleansers, moisturisers and sun screens. After about going through 4-5 that had no effect, I stopped at Cetaphil Restoraderm. It had a very subtle, but extremely soothing effect on my skin. Since than I’ve been using the cleanser along with the moisturiser pretty much every day before bed. After washing my face with the cleanser I let it air dry and a few minutes later I apply the moisturiser.

      Other key rules that I now follow:
      Never stress about the food I eat
      Never touch or scratch the skin (except sometimes my scalp)
      Stay away from excessive sun exposure
      Drink plenty of water
      Shower regularly
      Only cotton pillow cases
      Also for my scalp I went through a length adjustment period. After using commercial dandruff shampoos I decided to just find a good regular shampoo. Instead of picking one for oily hair (which my hair was at the time) I went for a moisturising shampoo.

      First I purchased a natural anti-dandruff one from Amazon (a very expensive product). The shampoo was non foaming and was more like a cream that I used to wash my hair with. My scalp started to normalize after about 2-3 weeks of constant usage. When I was using that shampoo I almost never had any dandruff.

      However, I when my bottle ran out I didn’t want to spend another 30 dollars on a small bottle of shampoo. Instead I went with a simple moisturising shampoo from a brand (Andalou) whose natural cleanser I previously enjoyed (the cleanser didn’t help my dermatitis long term). This is the shampoo that I’ve been using every since. The smell is amazing, my scalp feels healthy and my hair looks and feels very good. A bit of dandruff sometimes does come around, but it is quite mild and nothing which causes me to change my routine.

      Hopefully some of this information can prove useful to you.

      If you have any questions please feel free to email me. None of the advice above is medical advice and is a simple recollection of my approach.


      Best Regards,
      Michael Anders

      PS. Wish you luck with your fight against seborrheic dermatitis.

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        Warlajo

        What brand of l glutamine are you using? Been using practically anything to get rid of my sd for almost 20 yrs now… For the past 2 days been using antidandruff shampoo and it helps but i think need to use moisturizer.. I will try cetaphil for the past 3 months been using argan and rosehip oils it works for sometime but i think it really worsen my condition as it feeds the yeast…

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