This is a follow up on my original regimen. It’s now been almost a full year since the previous version was written and I’ve made significant changes to my regimen since that time. This regimen has been extremely effective for me and has allowed me to remain seborrheic dermatitis free (will update if anything changes).

Why Changes?

These changes were made due to two facts:

  1. Many users have reported that they had suffered with seborrheic dermatitis for major parts of their life (20-30 years). And this scared me!
  2. The Restoraderm had worked very well since my last post and I didn’t experience any real issues with seborrheic dermatitis (except for a few random flakes here and there). However, as the summer came around I noticed that my skin was rather sensitive to the sun (redness). And as I got more sun I noticed that the seborrheic dermatitis was still active, it was just dormant and being extremely well concealed by the Restoraderm.

What I’ve Been Doing

So during that past year I’ve been doing an immense amount of research on seborrheic dermatitis. However, I stopped searching through blogs, forums and other unproven sources. Instead I started reading strictly medical literature and trying to build a cohesive understanding of what is actually happening to seborrheic dermatitis affected skin.

An eBook That Turned Into Something Else

All this research was going into an eBook I had been working on (trying to organize and summarize my findings). However, as the Restoraderm stopped producing results, I decided to try to formulate my own natural topical solution. After countless failed attempts I finally stumbled on a unique formula that my skin seemed to really love.

After only days of usage my skin was not only seborrheic dermatitis free, but it seemed to actually be improving across the board. It was no longer dry, sun exposure was much more pleasant and skin tone started to drastically improve. Finally, I felt like I found what I was searching for all of these years.

Getting It Tested

Jolly from my own results, I decided to offer the formulation to other community members of this site to see if they would experience similar results. At this point I wasn’t 100% sure if it was really the formulation at work or some other random factor.

When the feedback started coming back I was blown away. People who had suffered for much longer then me (and that have spent much more money on trying to find a solution) were reporting amazing results. Obviously not every single tester reported these results, but the large majority did (~90%).

Based on this initial feedback I decided to try to actually make the formulation into a product that can be offered to everyone around the world. And so it was born:

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A Little About The Formulation

The idea behind Biom8 was to formulate something that was all natural and I would be comfortable using long term.

The formula uses a unique combination of anti-microbial and anti-fungal fatty acids, sea buck-thorn seed oil and vitamin E. This should supply the skin with nutrients and antioxidants needed for repair, in addition to improving the skins defense against the malassezia fungus (documented to be responsible for seborrheic dermatitis).

The result is not only a gradual improvement of skin barrier function, but also rapid relief of the most annoying symptoms (flaking and inflammation) of SD. But for me personally, the most comforting part of the formulation was that I manged to keep it all natural (this was very important in making me comfortable with long term usage).

How I Use the Biom8

The ointment is basically pure oil, so it only requires a tiny amount to cover a fairly large amount of skin. Using too much can leave the skin over-saturated and shinny. This the basic regimen I have been following daily since August 2015:

  1. Rinse face with slightly cold water only (wash hands prior to doing this)
  2. Using no towel or anything else, allow the skin to begin to air dry
  3. Once the majority of water has dried, but the skin still fairly moist (2-4 minutes) I apply the biom8
  4. To apply the Biom8, I squeeze a small amount into the palm and spread it out to create a thin layer, then using the fingers of the other hand I dab a bit of the oil and massage it into the skin

Some Additional Notes to My Method

These are just some general notes to my method.

  • when applying Biom8 I use the smallest amount possible to cover the skin (about 1-2 sprays from the spray pump)
  • if the skin is still too wet, the oils will not absorb well into the skin
  • if the skin is not wet enough, too much Biom8 would be required
  • the precision tip bottle can get fairly oily due to dispenser head, a paper towel can be used to wipe it clean after usage
  • if I plan on getting some sun, I apply a liberal amount of the Biom8, as it has worked exceptionally well as a tanning oil and in preventing the skin from drying up

Other Ideas for Integrating Biom8

The ointment was designed to be a universally applicable for easy integration into existing routines, regimens and other products. Some ideas for it’s usage:

  • addition to your existing shampoo
  • addition to your existing cleanser
  • addition to another moisturizer
  • addition to makeup (for women)
  • addition to a hair styling product

Additional Information Available on the Biom8 Website

The following are links where you can find more information. However, please bare with me as the website isn’t fully completed. Any feedback on areas where I can improve would be appreciated.

Additional Dietary Points of Interest

Since I currently believe that seborrheic dermatitis is simply an issue of poor sebum composition (allowing for increase bacterial/fungal activity), controlling sebum production can be of benefit. These are some methods which I try to integrate into daily life now:

  • eat lots of carrots and supplement with cod liver oil (Vitamin A regulates sebum production)
  • eat lots of apples (improves blood sugar control, which regulates sebum production)
  • try to keep meals balanced and not overeat (this again is aimed at blood sugar control and prevention of insulin spikes)
  • eat lots of cruciferous vegetables (cabbage has been show to heal ulcers, plus this group of vegetables has been shown to improve antimicrobial peptide production and prevent cancer)

How I Control Dandruff

Dandruff hasn’t actually been a problem for me at all lately and I attribute this to the shampoo I’ve been using “Andalou Natural Moisture Rich Shampoo“. If dandruff decided to come back the first thing I would try is adding a few drops of Biom8 onto my scalp (either while shampooing or while applying hair gel).

Biom8 On the Scalp

The areas I’ve been using the Biom8 is on my face, ears, and hairline. However, users have reported great results from using the Biom8 on their scalp. The most common approach seems to be messaging directly into the scalp after the shower or several hours prior to showering.

Based on the feedback, I’ve started working on a formula specifically for the scalp and in a container that makes it easier to get down to the roots. This will hopefully be available towards the end of 2015.

Links to Useful Comments

Users have been posting various tips and suggestions in the comment thread below. For quick access I will try to organize the most useful here:

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206 Responses to “My Seborrheic Dermatitis Skin Regimen 2.0”

  1. Shannon Profile Photo
    Shannon

    I got this about a week ago (my seborrheic dermatitis is worse this year than ever before & my rx ciclopirox shampoo & clobetasol soln were only making it worse, itching & digging at my scalp non-stop). I was desperate. For a week (since i received my biom8) ive been mixing a capsule of my probiotic into a small amount & coating my 4 spots of seborrheic dermatitis on my scalp every nighr before bed & shampooing in the am. In just 1 treatment, the least bad patch didnt itch at all the next day, and the others itched less. Every day they get better. Its been about a week & they are mostly healed & i can make it thru work without having to sneak to the bathroom to remove chunks of skin i scratched off my scalp. This is the best. Saved my scalp.

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  2. dorotha carey Profile Photo
    dorotha carey

    cant wait to receive my order. hoping that Biom8 will alleviate my scalp redness.

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  3. Angel Profile Photo
    Angel

    I have recently started suffering from this…it’s definitely put a damper on my self-esteem. I want to see if this regimen could help me. For the last three years I have been trying to fight my SD with Apple Cider Vinegar but the effects are not lasting. I will see if biom8 does the trick for me.

    Thank you!

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  4. Dominic Cipolla Profile Photo
    Dominic Cipolla

    Hi,
    I have been dealing with this condition for several years. With different levels of severity. Almost non existent to full on flares. I am in the midst of a full on flare right after a good year of not having to much trouble. Obviously anyone reading this knows the frustrating emotional roller coaster having this condition can be. Anyway, I have found this book to be a wonderful tool. I was curious if you could recommend a doctor in the NYC area? Traditional or holistic.

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  5. Charline Mightly Profile Photo
    Charline Mightly

    Hello,
    thank you for sharing your research and results with us. I live in jamaica and it has been expensive as hell to treat this and it doesnt help for long.
    i am interested in your product.
    please advise how this would be possible

    thanks

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  6. Steve Kruckheimmer Profile Photo
    Steve Kruckheimmer

    I’ve read all of Skindrone but one important question remains. Aside from the “treatments” and what to do to handle flair-ups, what do you recommend as a basic moisturizer that can be worn throughout the day? I’ve used Zenmed consistently (daily) for about 15 years and it’s great at stopping the itching, although it definitely isn’t a cure. About 2 months ago I discovered Tea Tree oil, a so-called “essential oil.” What do you think of these? I made a series of dilutions and am experimenting with it, mainly on my mustache area and eyebrows, but am still looking for other solutions.

    What do you think of Tea Tree oil (diluted with almond oil) or jojoba oil?

    Also, how often should I “wash” my face. It seems daily washing is excessive. Is splashing the face with water, or holding a warm washcloth to the face for a while, sufficient? As an adult I never “wash” my face, and, at 58, it seems to have held up pretty well – except for the facial dandruff that started about 15 years ago immediately after I bought a facial scrub that seemed to completely disrupt the equilibrium that had existed up until that point.

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  7. sophia Profile Photo
    sophia

    I have looked for Biome on Amazon but cannot find it. Where do you suggest I buy it… I now have a crack that sometimes bleeds. I use T Gel for my scalp and sometimes rub it into my ear, but it doesn’t seem to help.

    Thanks,
    sophia

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  8. Janelle Diaz Profile Photo
    Janelle Diaz

    Hi, I’m suffering from Seborrhic dermatitis. Would like to try the Biom8 skin conditioning oil. Is it available here in the Philippines? How can I avail the product?

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  9. Daniel Profile Photo
    Daniel

    I am 20 years old & over the last week have been diagnosed with seb derm.
    What brand(s) shampoo, conditioner, facewash & moisturizer would you recommend the rest?
    Just the best of each would be great so I can get them immediately.

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  10. Adam Rainey Profile Photo
    Adam Rainey

    Hi all, I had SD on my face but also athletes foot and fungal toenails. I was recently prescribed Terbinafine by the doctor. After 3 months it cleared my fungal toenails but also my SD. I think curing from the inside is ke. Thanks

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  11. cecilia buban Profile Photo
    cecilia buban

    suffering from SD for 1 year,at the age of 53 i am so worried..visit dermatologist,gave tar shampoo,lotion and oil but it is not healing..

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  12. Simrit Profile Photo
    Simrit

    Hi! And thanks for the information. I have seborrheic dermatitis around my eyebrows and it is just not getting fixed. I wanted to try the Biom8, could you please let me know from where I can purchase this.
    Thanks,
    Simrit

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  13. Brandon Profile Photo
    Brandon

    I have had seborrheic dermatitis for about 15 years. Like most peoples’ experiences, dermatologists and other doctors provided ZERO help. I’ve tried everything under the sun to try and control the redness/itching/burning of the skin on my face. Until now, nothing has worked. It has left me feeling helpless at times.

    I started using the Biom8 a little over a month ago. It is AMAZING!!! I haven’t had a single flare up or any redness at all!!!!! I use it 1-2 times per day and it works flawlessly!

    It is such a relief to FINALLY find something that works! THANK YOU!!!

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    • Artan Profile Photo
      Artan

      Hi Brandon! It’s the first time I am reading something from this blog, even though I have been searching a lot for my SD. I have it for around 8 years and I am only 26! Can you please let me know, how trustfully is this shampoo. I would appreciate an answer from you.

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  14. Yun Profile Photo
    Yun

    Hi Michael

    I’m currently a student studying in Singapore, a small country in South East Asia. I have dandruff at my scalp area, sides of my face, behind my ears and at the back of my neck, since about 5 years ago. I have never seen any doctors about it, but recently it has become so unbearable and worse that I’ve searched about it online and I’m suspecting that it might be SD.

    I’m wondering though, if I should see a derm to confirm my diagnosis first, or invest in an anti-dandruff shampoo, or try out your BIOM8 formula. Being a student with no income, the BIOM8 formula costs abt $35USD in total to ship to my country, which is pretty costly for me so I really wish to use the savings I have to fix this daunting condition of mine. Hope you’ll be able to provide me with some advice, would really appreciate it!

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  15. Kristal Profile Photo
    Kristal

    Just met SD 1 month ago. Needless to say, I have tried many shampoos, creams, etc.
    I have it on my scalp, hairline and ears….hair falling out:( I will buy the Biom8.
    I cut out fried foods and sweets and add plenty of garlic to raw veggies and baked salmon and
    chicken.

    How long after using Biom8, did SD die? Looking forward to hearing from you.
    Thanks for your book!

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  16. dean Profile Photo
    dean

    i bought it couple days a go it does make my skin smoother and keep the flakes off for a while but the redness still there after how much time is starts to effect?

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  17. Jd Profile Photo
    Jd

    I’ve been having this battle for the past 15 years. Here is what sb is triggered in me:

    1.) Gluten
    2.) Excessive alcohol
    3.) Peanuts, peanut butter
    4.) Dairy, especially milk
    5.) Not having the above for a while and then consuming a lot if it unprecedented

    Good luck

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    • Dizzy Profile Photo
      Dizzy

      Well gluten and peanuts are allergens , so is dairy since we´re not meant to consume it other than from our moms when we´re babies and alcohol is basically intoxicating yourself anyway- though it´s very clever to make a correlation between food and skin problems .. I have yet to figure out what causes my scalp to act up , stress could be a factor too and I haven´t been eating much different and it reoccured lately..How did you find out which foods caused it ? Did you like exclude each one individually from your diet to see how you react or..?

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  18. Brenda Profile Photo
    Brenda

    You have no idea what this means . I’ve been suffering with seborhic dermatitis for about 5 1/2 years. It’s literally eating away at my eyebrow skin so aggressively that they’ve thinned by at least 50% . The eyebrow hairs are so frail if I touch them they fall out and the condition seems to suffocate them at the root leaving hard balls of it attached to the root. Nothing has worked. No dermatologist seems to understand me. They say the same thing and it doesn’t look to bad but they’re not the one picking endless skin out 2-3 hours a night . Please tell me any suggestions you have for the hair regrowth as well as the way to get them healthy again!!! I’m so desperate and tired of this. I’m a 32 year old female and my eyebrows once made my face and now they are always pointed out and a huge embarrassment . Please help.

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    • Kristen Profile Photo
      Kristen

      I have the same issue with my eyebrows and I use wunderbrow. You can find it on Amazon for about $20 and it’ll last you about a month or so. You basically paint it onto your eyebrows (or on the skin where they should be)and it’ll last for a day or two.

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  19. Pieter Bull Profile Photo
    Pieter Bull

    Hi Michael,
    I’m interested in trying your product…I didn’t see any purchase info.
    Do you offer free samples to see of it will work for a new user?
    Alternatively, are you willing to share your recipe so others can try it?
    I’m unclear as to whether your goal is to market a solution to be sold, or simply sharing your insights with others in the SD community.
    Thanks in advance!

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  20. Paul Profile Photo
    Paul

    I am a long time sufferer of Seborrheic Dermatitis and after using the Skin Drone website as my go-to for help I feel compelled to write down some of my experiences to hopefully give people hope and suggestions on how to deal with this.

    I’ve had this for nearly 20 years and it started with a tiny red spot below one of my eyes which I thought was just some kind of rash which would go away in time. I was told to change the soap I was using as perhaps it was too harsh for my skin – at this early stage I had no idea about how using soap on your face could possibly be a problem. Needless to say the rash did not go away and another dime sized spot appeared below my other eye and then more redness on either side of my nose creating my first visit to a dermatologist and the beginning of many treatments with zero long term solutions.

    I was diagnosed with SD and given the usual steroid creams and hydrocortisone which had short term help but long term side effects which I didn’t really pay attention to at the time – I just wanted to control the redness and didn’t care about the side effects. My SD was limited to my face although I did get the dandruff too but for me this was easily controlled with Head and Shoulders antidandruff with pyrithione zinc. My dermatologist also told me to try using the H&S on my hair and then let it slowly run down my face to cure the SD on my face. Also was told to put the shampoo directly on my effected parts of my face to get rid of redness and neither methods worked for me.

    I got into the habit of applying steroid cream and hydrocortisone on my face everyday and after a few desperate months of doing this I noticed even more redness appearing on my cheeks which seemed odd as my research had always told me that this disease mainly attacks the t-zone. Upon further investigation I found that I had steroid induced rosacea due to using these products too much. I had to stop using all the steroid cream and hydrocortisone and was at a loss at how to control this ongoing condition. More trips to the dermatologist with little help at all, lots of surfing the internet for advice and possible breakthrough treatments with no luck. Needless to say I have given up on dermatologists as I don’t believe this can be cured by any kind of drugs they can provide you with, just my personal opinion.

    I don’t want to make this too long but fast forward to today and I can tell you what has helped me in my struggle to contain, but not cure this disease. I believe this is is something I’ll have to deal with for the rest of my life and am okay with it as I have found a method to control it so that I can go about my daily life with relative normalcy.

    I believe that stress, food and heat are the main three factors that create flare ups for me personally. I try to dress as cooly as possible at all times and avoid heavy sweaters and thick clothing as well as being in any kind of central heating which severely dries my skin and causing problems for me. As this is a problem wherein your oil glands are constantly over producing oil I figured that if you dry out your skin its going to produce even more oil to combat the dryness. I also try not to wear anything on my head for an extended period of time – although when I run I do wear a cap – I try not to cover my head which just makes my entire body hot. This can be challenging as we all live in different climates, so this is just my personal experience.

    Running for me is a great way to sweat and clear out my pores and I try and get out about three times a week. I try to run outdoors and not in a stuffy gym as I believe in the health benefits of a small dose of sunshine although when the weather is not cooperating I do not have a choice but to go to the gym. If i do find myself in the gym I always head towards the fan or close to the AC vent to keep my body as cool as possible whilst I work out. Exercise in general goes hand in hand in helping me contain this issue and I just feel like getting a good sweat on helps me destress too.

    I started reading the Skin Drone a couple years back now and have experimented with most of the methods that have been presented by both the author and people in the comments section. I have tried the ACV method which didn’t really work for me. I tried using it as is, as well as diluting it with water but I saw no immediate results so I abandoned that method. I do believe that longevity is the key with any method you try and perhaps I didn’t give it enough of a chance. As people so often say with this disease what works for one person quite often does not work for others. I tried various other methods of treatment including washing my face with sea salt water, not washing my face at all, not moisturizing at all and many other desperate methods to clear up my face, all of which failed me.

    I then started looking at my diet and thinking back to when my skin was at its worst and what I had done the day or night before and tried to find a connection. I found that after eating a big meal in the evening before I went to bed I would often find that my skin would look worse in the morning. I concluded that if you have a big meal shortly before you go to bed your body has not had the time to digest the food so it does all the digestion whilst you are sleeping. I decided to focus on have bigger lunches and smaller dinners and this seemed to help me.

    I’ve added coconut oil into my diet on a small scale – I’ll cook with it whenever possible, I went through a stage when I applied it directly to my skin but that didn’t work out so well for me either. I’ve cut down my sugar intake too and went through a stage where I cut wheat out of my diet as I believe many people have said that yeast plays a role in this disease. The dieting lasted a few months with no positive results for my skin. I honestly think that the food I am putting in my body is not the culprit as I eat relatively healthy but if you’re drinking loads of sodas and junk food everyday you may have a bigger problem.

    I also found that drinking alcohol makes your body hot so naturally that would dry out my skin and make me look even worse. I thus curbed my drinking and although I still drink whatever I want I have made some choices to help with this issue. I will often choose the lightest beer available when in the past I didn’t even care to look at the alcohol content. I also drink red wine on occasion and will always have a glass of water next to me and be sure to drink extra water before I go to bed to balance out any of the alcohol I have put into my system earlier. Water is the key to hydration and I never leave home without a big bottle of water which I will swig on all day long. Some people would look at my skin in the past and tell me I was just dehydrated and needed to drink more water but those people had no idea about the skin disease I was dealing with. Drinking water won’t make this go away but it may assist in regulating the temperature of your body and keeping you hydrated.

    Stress is a tough one to deal with as everyone has different things going on in their life, be it work or family issues to deal with. Its hard to tell someone to eliminate stress from their lives as having this disease is stressful enough, it can even keep you from leaving the house. Unfortunately I don’t have any advice on how to manage the stresses you may have in your life but I do believe that in periods of stress you can have some bad flare ups. I have been told to try yoga as a means to destress and unwind and have yet to try but have only heard good things about it.

    I have used many different face washes and moisturizes to try and deal with this issue and I would not have enough time to try and write them all down and am not sure I want to start mentioning names of brands as I don’t think that would be fair. The bottom line for me was to try and choose a soap free, non comedogenic face wash and avoid anything that had harsh chemicals in it. There are many of these on the market and after lots of trial and ever I finally found something that has given me some good results. Thanks to this website I decide to try a milk based formula which has been very successful for me so far.

    Next up was finding a moisturizer which follows a similar path, my main goal was to find something which was alcohol free, not actually sure why but this was what I had figured out in my head – sometimes by a process of elimination you come to a decision and this was mine. I have tried so many different textures of moisturizer – tinted, gel, oil free, zinc based, with spf, matte finish, thick, thin and the list goes on. I would sometimes have good results for a few months and then things would go back to normal.

    I finally found a moisturizer that worked for me and had been using it with much success in combination with my face wash for about 6 months when I noticed my red areas slowly starting to reappear and this is where my help from the Skin Drone website came in. I had ordered the BIOM8 oil a few months back and started using it on my skin as instructed. I was waiting for instant results as I’m sure most of you do when something arrives in the mail that many people have been raving about. Due to my impatience and perhaps the moisturizer I was using at the time I had little success with the BIOM8 and decided to shelf it along with the 100’s of other products I have done that to in my life. Now was the time to go back to the BIOM8 and give it a second chance and be more patient as I was sure I had found the right face wash, moisturizer and daily lifestyle to deal with my SD.

    Its been about 8 months now and I have been using the BIOM8 in combination with my face wash and moisturizer and I firmly believe that this is the key to getting my skin back to where it was many years ago. Most of the ingredients in the BIOM8 I have at one stage in my life used on there own in some form or another with little success, but this product seems to have combined all those ingredients to create something that finally and magically helps heal my skin. I use it in the evening before I go to bed and it has been a life saver for me.

    I was using it both in the morning and evening initially as I was so excited with the good results I couldn’t get enough of it but logic told me that too much of a good thing would be a bad thing so I stopped the twice a day usage and went back to the evening application only which is where I’m at now. I was using a q-tip at first and putting the oil on it and then dabbing it on my skin but I found that most of the oil would get absorbed before it made it to my skin. Now I just pump the oil into the palm of my hand and dab it on my face with my finger.

    I just wanted to thank the Skin Drone for developing this product that has given me hope and possibly a long term solution for my SD. The struggle is real for everyone out there dealing with this issue and I hope that you find something of substance that you can take away from this website to help combat this disease.

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  21. Melinda Arnson Profile Photo
    Melinda Arnson

    Micheal,

    I’ve just found your website and intend to peruse it thoroughly. I have been diagnosed with sebhorraic dermatits. About 3 years ago in the fall I noticed red scaly patches all over my head, forehead and they started covering my upper body. At the time I was battling an infection in my tooth and waiting until I could get a root canal then get off the anti bacterial drugs I had been on, so I thought it was a reaction to the drugs as I know I”m allergic to certain drugs used to combat bladder infections and the like (can’t remember right now what they are called – sulpha drugs?) anyhow, once the tooth was taken care of and I’d been off the drugs more than a month, the skin condition was not going away so I saw a doctor. She gave me ketaconazole shampoo. The ‘rash’ was not even but rather patches were anywhere from a dime size to about the size of my palm. They went away in the early spring so I thought I was good.
    Last fall they began again and I got the ketaconazole shampoo. THe condition was apparently managed well enough that it stayed on my scalp, ears, forehead – but my eyes looked like I’d been hit – dark circles, puffiness, crepiness – felt like I’d suddently hit 60 and I’m not even 50 yet! I also experienced hair loss which I hadn’t previously so I was quite upset. I decreased used of shampoo to every other day’s shower and massively over-indulged in conditioner leaving it as much as I dared in my hair. I also began to replace shampooing with application of Apple Cider Vinegar so was really only shampooing about twice a week and vinegar twice a week with lots of conditioner.
    It was again about mid-spring when I noticed relief. Hair regrowth, no more dandruff or itchiness – the eyes were getting much better after much moisturizing. But I’ve dreaded the onset of fall.
    THis past weekend, I noticed what I thought were bug bites on my forehead but now I think it’s the SD beginning again and I’m beside myself. I don’t want to look awful and itch and have dandruff – my eyes are just beginning to look normal again.
    I will be spending some time on this site over the next few days and trying to figure out what to do. I haven’t seemed to pickup that other’s experience this SD stuff on a seemingly seasonal basis like I do – is it constant for you?
    As I said I’ll be poking around this site the next couple of days looking for ideas about what to do. If I have questions I’ll come back. If there’s any information I can share to help come to any solutions for this I’m happy to share anything I can to build a basket of possible clues.

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  22. Nevada Smith Profile Photo
    Nevada Smith

    A number of people who have determined that they are mercury toxic have this condition. I am wondering if there are many with the condition who don’t yet know they are mercury toxic and who therefore don’t realise that if and when they get rid of the mercury in their bodies the condition may improve or completely resolve?

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    • Kiki Collishaw Profile Photo
      Kiki Collishaw

      Hi Nevada – I’m blown away by this comment, as I’ve thought for a very long time that I have a heavy metal issue. I’ve been through a ton trying to feel better and help my random ‘issues’ that do include this awful ear thing – that has been part of me for almost 20 years. I’m ready to be finished!!

      Please let me know what you did to cure your mercury toxicity.

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  23. Linas Profile Photo
    Linas

    Hi people ! My name is Linas, I`m merchant marine officer.I`m from Lithuania. I think this stressful job caused my SD. 2014 I came on board, the Captain was an asshole, lot of fuss all the time without no reason. So my SD started as a small spot under my left eye, upper side of the nose. Since my skin always was not perfect I ignored that and it just disappeared. After few days spots returned, both sides this time. In few weeks on board it expanded on my nose, cheeks, ears, eyebrows. When I went home, Derm prescribed Elidel and Travacort (corticosteroid). Problem is, they did the trick like 2-3 days and then skin went even worse. Went to another, he suggested micro emulsion “Sebodiane DS” for mornings and some custom made cream which includes 4 different creams (nizoral cream included). Those helped a lot, but SD was still there, like 30 percent there. Then I started to read about leaky gut syndrome and combined my diet. Also started to use dygestive enzymes and probiotics. It helped alot as well. Now I`m having SD on my cheeks, approx. 10 percent, that’s it. Of course I know,that it`s the matter of time and it will come back. Any junk food will force that. Now I made an order for Biom8 and probiotic spray. Wish you all guys find your ways to get rid of this ! I believe,that every case is unique and you need to find your own path to solve. Cheers !

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  24. Mike Profile Photo
    Mike

    Another point people should consider if NOTHING seems to work for them. I go to the tanning salon about once every 3 days and it works wonders for my seb derm I have had on my nose, forehead, and eyebrows. And I KNOW sunlight is supposed to cause it to get worse I have heard it from everybody, however I have had this condition since about 10 years old and I am 25 and besides diet, it is the ONLY thing that clears it up.

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  25. Tim Profile Photo
    Tim

    Hi,
    I’ve been dealing with seb derm for about twenty years. I’ve learned a few things, but I’m still struggling to find treatments that work long-term. I appreciate that Michael and others are working to find solutions. I’m happy to share what I’ve learned too.
    I look forward to participating in this discussion.
    Tim

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  26. Casca Profile Photo
    Casca

    Hi, I was wondering when the scalp control oil will come out. I read before that you estimated it to come out this week or so, but that was one month ago and perhaps things have changed.
    Actually I was planning on buying the biom8 oil but my SD is a lot worse on my scalp (maybe its not even SD..). Also the price (+ shipping to the Netherlands) is pretty tough with my budget, which I hope can change when the biom8 gains more popularity.

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  27. Erica Profile Photo
    Erica

    How is rosehip oil, jojoba oil or argan oil for seborrheic scalp?
    I don´t dare to use it in my face. Oil´s make me break out, sadly 🙁

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  28. Sanya Profile Photo
    Sanya

    I want to ask, how do you deal with SD on the eyelids? I have been using Biom 8 morning and evening for around two and half weeks, but it does not seem to have clearing effect. The scaly patches are still present. What else should I try?

    Thank you

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  29. Gabriel Profile Photo
    Gabriel

    Let me first say that I am not affiliated with or endorsed by skindrone or Biom8 in any way. I am a regular guy with sebhorreic dermatitis on my face. Or rather I was. I bought the smallest bottle of Biom8, used as directed (a thin layer applied to moist skin each night), and my skin has been clear ever since. No joke, no scam – just guilt free, natural skin without steroids or carcinogens. If you are skeptical like I was, do yourself a favor and try the small bottle. Thank you so much!!!

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    • HV Profile Photo
      HV

      hi there, i’m glad that Biom8 works for you!!! I am using it too, cannot tell if it works for me but at least it’s the mildest moisturizer that my sensitive skin can tolerate… everything else irritates it.

      I have a question, I really wonder how people with seb derm remove the scaly buildup? I refuse to use any steroid/antifungal topical, but the flaky/scaly skin is still there and I really don’t know what to do with it. And when the scales become thickening I feel Biom8 cannot penetrate through it to moisturize my skin anymore… Please help?

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      • Kirithika Raju Profile Photo
        Kirithika Raju

        Hey!

        I’ve been using Apple Cider Vinegar (diluted with water) every night before bed and it has greatly reduced the scaly build-up on my face. And then during the day of course, I use Biom8.

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  30. Mark Profile Photo
    Mark

    hi all, new to the site. Great info and lots of positive posts. I have had SD for about 2 years and I agree, a load of misleading info on the net. What has worked for me more than anything else is less stress and sunlight.

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  31. Mark Profile Photo
    Mark

    Hi guys, new to the website, but what a great website it is. Loads of concise info and advice.

    I have had SD for a couple of years, currently only around my nose. I know that it appears there are definitely different triggers of SD and probably different compositions of it which is why some people have success with some treatments and not others.

    I seem to really suffer in the winter, in the last 3 winters I have had IBS, ( I am in the UK so it gets cold !!) Then 2 years ago, I got the rash on the face.
    I have a stressful job which sees me sat at a computer for hours on end so when I read this website, I literally was a walking time bomb for this condition, stressful job, no sunlight, issues with digestion.

    I have decided to see this is a positive turning point in my life, improve my diet, reduce my stress, get more time outdoors which will ultimately hopefully lead to get rid of my SD. I think Michael you are definitely right about a lot of it being to do with your thoughts, if I spend a lot of time worrying about the rash or even staring in the mirror looking at it, I can physically make it’s appearance worse just by doing this.

    I have a question, I went on holiday last week to a much warmer climate. I got there about 5pm, had one meal, a quick dip on the pool. By the middle of the next morning so I had been there for less than 24 hours, my SD had 95% cleared up !! I know there are a lot of theories about different water, or food, or the sun helping with SD but I don’t think I was there long enough for this to kick in so quickly. So my theory is the stress reduction. Anyone have any thoughts on this ? Also does anyone else have IBS, I wonder if this is common in people with SD, thanks for listening,

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    • Janis Profile Photo
      Janis

      I have have had Crohn’s since 2008, but this is the first year I encountered SD. WebMD and other sites talk about the prevalence of SD in people with IBS/Crohn’s. Don’t quote me, but the statistics are really high, as I seem to recall. Haven’t looked those sites in months since my condition has been gradually improving.

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    • Håkan Profile Photo
      Håkan

      Hi Mark

      Stress behind the computer is a bigger SD trigger for me as well.

      We should do something about it 🙂 I tend to relax the best when being outdoors on my free time.

      I think we should try to not sit behind the computer for more than 45 minutes and then take a short brake.

      Maybe start some relaxing techniques on and off work.

      I find it easy to stay away from sugar, wheat and alcohol, but not the stress. I go to bed early as well.

      A short walk during lunch is great thing too.

      Best wishes

      Håkan in Sweden

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    • Paul Profile Photo
      Paul

      Was it a salt water pool? Salt water heals SD. Swimming in the ocean is the best. But even chlorine pools seem to kill it off as well. Sun heals it as well. But it is an internal issue, and is healed by a very clean diet and plenty of movement and exercise. This guy, Rob Stuart, has an awesome youtube channel with lots of good info. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsN34Z1iyQYoFrxK7nL7GOA

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    • Mike Profile Photo
      Mike

      Hi Mark, sorry I was reading this comment and just HAD to respond because of our similarities. I work from a computer, have horrible digestion, and only get seb derm on my forehead and sides of nose besides of course my scalp. Any time I go on vacation to a humid, hot place like Florida, or the virgin islands, my seb derm is almost completely cleared up. I came to the determination it is because of how humid it is there, our skin doesn’t get time to dry up as much as it does in other places, and applying topical moisturizer is unnecessary. But if you don’t have time to go on vacation, the best cure for me was to fix my digestive issues first. Cut sugar out of your diet and add mostly vegetables and your skin will clear up. Also, apple cider vinegar is the only natural supplement that has EVER worked for me, and only on my scalp. Hope that helps!

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      • Melinda Profile Photo
        Melinda

        Mike – please expound on your comments about Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) and your scalp. I sense the SD starting again for the third year – I believe it’s started on my forehead – temple area first then above brows. I began using ACV in place of shampoo a couple times a week last winter but am not sure whether the SD cycle was on the mend or if the ACV actually did help. Would be helpful to hear your experience? I too believe what others are saying – if it’s a fungus or something like that, it stands to reason different triggers are the culprits for each person as well as different solutions would work.

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  32. HV Profile Photo
    HV

    Hi, sent a comment once but don’t know where it’s gone.
    I suffer from SD for almost 6 months now, first I thought it was just because of the weather… The strangest thing is my skin is super oily, and it got super dry after I got this SD.

    I just order Biom8, I hope I will get it soon… Could you please tell me how much time it often takes to get to USA? I have never used any topical cream my derm prescribed me as I know they won’t help. I also didn’t apply coconut oil or anything similar, now I’m just applying my usual moisturizer (hyaluronic acid). My skin feels very tight and dry but I don’t want to apply any oil-based moisturizer.

    I have some flakes between my eyebrows. When I apply moisturizer this flaky patch seems to be hidden but at the middle of day the flakes start showing up and the skin there gets so red. For last 4 days I want to see how it is without moisturizer. It’s now not red anymore but very scaly. The scales seem to be thicker now. Do you have any idea when it will scale off by itself?

    I also have tiny flakes above my mouth and along my nasal fold. What should I do for now? I’m so confused… If I apply something too oily it can help with tightness and dryness but it might spread the seborrhea. If I don’t, the skin feels too dry for me.

    Thank you!

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  33. HV Profile Photo
    HV

    Hi Michael,
    I just order Biom8 yesterday and hope it will arrive soon. I have a question for you… I think I got SD last Christmas, however i had never known it was SD, just thought it was my skin getting dry due to the weather so I just kept applying moisturizer… When my old moisturizer for oily skin didn’t work anymore, I changed to moisturizer for dry skin. I had to apply a lot of them to make my skin feel less rough. Then i began seeing so much flakes on my skin between eyebrows. I still thought it was my dry skin so I kept applying moisturizer. Now when I got to know it is SD and stop applying cream, the flakes already spread to a much larger area (still between my eyebrows but it travels down to the level of my eyes).

    I also see there are a lot of tiny flakes (like small dandruffs) around my mouth that seem to be traveling to my cheeks now. They don’t scale off, they are just tiny like dry skin (but I know it is not dry skin, i believe my eyebrow problem used to be like this at first stage). I don’t know what to do with this? For last few days I just let the flakes on my eyebrow area alone and now they get so dry… i hope they will come off after someday. But how about those tiny white dots (flakes) around my mouth? Should I leave it alone too?

    I apply hyaluronic acid (bought from gardenofwisdom) 2 times a day just to keep my skin moistened. I try so hard to keep myself away from touching or scratching the itching area. What I am afraid the most is SD will spread.

    Please help 🙂

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  34. Lola Profile Photo
    Lola

    In your first article you mentioned your dislike that people were claiming to have answers by Hawking creams. Looks like that’s exactly what you’re doing here.

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  35. Sanya Profile Photo
    Sanya

    Hi Michael,

    I have been using the biom 8 oil since 20th March evening. That is two and half days. I apply it morning and evening after washing my face with water only. I can say that there is a slight improvement with the flaking on my eyelids. I see the flakes on the rest of my face when I put the oil, they are rolling down my cheeks. But the skin is covered, and they are unnoticable. However, I have noticed the appearance of two little red pimples, one near my nose and one on the forehead. I must mention that I have oily and acne-prone. Moreover, when I wash my face in the evening/morning. I sense the skin rough, especially the cheek and jaw line area. Also, after I apply the oil, and it is absorbed into the skin, that area on the cheeks and the jaw line (left-right) is dry and rough again, as if I haven’t put the oil at all. And I try to cover that section well. What seems to be the problem?

    Thank you for any recommendations.
    Sanya

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Sanya,

      My apologize for not responding sooner The comments here have been neglected in the past months, as most of my time has been going into the eBook and direct email responses.
      Hard to say why this is occurring. Many factors may be playing a role. Perhaps you skin simply doesn’t like the oils or the combination with other products changes the outcome.

      How have things progressed since your original comment?

      Sorry again for the delayed response. For a more immediate response you can use the contact form on the BIOM8 website. But, planning to stay updated on the comments here as well.
      Wish you all the best and hope you finally find an suitable approach that calms your skin.

      Have an amazing weekend!

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  36. Håkan Profile Photo
    Håkan

    Hi Michael

    Except from a healthy lifestyle I use your probiotic spray after showering. It still works great for me!

    I highly recommend the spray to those that have issues with topical oils like myself. Any oil makes my condition to get worse.

    I’m still trying to find the ‘early research’ again that stated that there are different types of SD. This is probably similar to the different fungis/bacterias/microbes etc. that your are writing about in your posts Michael.

    Thanks again Michael for all the help you’re providing us with.

    Håkan

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  37. Richard Medford Profile Photo
    Richard Medford

    Hey Michael,
    I have been suffering from SD for 15+ years now but only on the top to back of my scalp mainly. I want to try BIOM8 but am wondering if I get the 250ml bottle can you include the tips? It seems I would be using the precision tip to apply it onto the back of my scalp unless you have an update for the scalp solution you were working on?

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Richard,
      Sorry for the HUGE delay in getting back to you. The eBook and BIOM8 emails have eaten up practically all of my time and a result the comment cue has been neglected (hoping to stay up to date now).

      Not a problem for the tips. Simply add an order note and will replace your cap with Precision Tip instead.
      Regarding the Scalp Control formulation, there have been some big setbacks. It was planned to be released a long time ago, but delays in production have really set things back. Hoping to have it released in the next 3-4 weeks time, but can’t say 100%.

      Hope that helps and once again sorry for the delay in response.
      Wish you all the best.

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  38. Sanya Profile Photo
    Sanya

    Hi Michael,

    I read it above that you use half a squeeze from the pump on your face. I applied it yesterday and this morning on my entire face. I put one squeeze on my palm and massaged it into the skin, while still being moist, but I did not use the entire squeezed oil on my palm. However, after it dries out completely, I feel the skin tight especially the cheeks. What do you recommend?

    Thank you
    Sanya

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  39. Sanya Profile Photo
    Sanya

    Hi Michael,

    I have ordered and received the Biom 8 oil and I wanted to ask you what is the minimal amount that should be used? One squeeze from the pump? Also can I use it twice a day?(morning/evening).

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Sanya,

      Happy to hear that your order arrived without any difficulties.
      Have gone ahead and answered the question to the best of my ability over at the Biom8 website:

      How Much Skin Conditioning Oil Should I Use

      Hope that answers your question. Overall though, it seems the best approach is to find an amount that is most suitable in for your skin.
      Perhaps in the beginning stages, you may want to use more oil to allow the skin to stabilize. Once better, simply use small amounts to maintain.

      It was summer when I first started using it myself and I was using it as a tanning oil for my face (when battling with SD my skin became extremely sensitive to the sun).
      This allowed me to finally tan my face and also seemed to have a beneficial compounding effect on the SD(sun light may regulate the innate immune response of the skin).

      Hope you see similar results to mine. Best of luck and look forward to hearing how things go.

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  40. Hakan Profile Photo
    Hakan

    Michael, I totally agree on that stress is a huge factor.

    Even though I was on the skin clear programme, my SD got worse after a few weeks due a difficult period at work.

    Know things are under control again at work and my skin is improving.

    Best wishes

    Hakan

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Hakan,

      Thanks for the update.

      Unfortunate to hear that you didn’t see much improvement on the program.
      Currently I am working on a post that examines malassezia and hair-loss. Next one after that will be looking at the connection to stress in greater detail.
      So far, I personally believe that in adults, seborrheic dermatitis is most likely caused by fatty acid issues within the body (which may be created via different underlying reasons).

      Glad to hear that things got under control again.
      Are you doing any treatments still or just trying to influence it with lifestyle factors.

      All the best.

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  41. Priyanka Mahapatra Profile Photo
    Priyanka Mahapatra

    Hey I am from India, Bhubaneswar a city in Odisha
    Can I known how can I get biom8
    Please let me know asap.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Priyanka,

      Currently the only place to get Biom8 is online through the website: http://www.biom8.com.
      Hoping to have it available in stores sometime soon, but doubt that they would make it on the Indian market anytime soon (Canada and USA will likely be first).

      On a side note – international shipping is about $11 and usually takes about 10-12 business days for orders to arrive.

      Hope that helps and you can finally something that works for you.
      All the best.

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  42. deborah Profile Photo
    deborah

    A week ago I asked if it is okay to use BIOM8 on skin with both acne and dermatitis. Does anyone have an answer?

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  43. Susie Profile Photo
    Susie

    Hi Michael, I’ve been using the biom8 along with your recommended Andalou shampoo but have not seen any changes to my 9 year old daughter’s scalp. This is the only area where she is suffering right now. I was just wondering how long I should try this method before giving up and when do you expect your new scalp solution to be ready for? Thanks!

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Susie,

      Sorry to hear that the Biom8 and Andalou haven’t provided any results.
      Personally, I believe if you don’t see results quickly then the product is likely not going to help.
      Likely the cause of your daughters issues differ from the common malassezia typically responsible for seborrheic dermatitis.
      As I mentioned in the previous response, my hypothesis is that your daughters issues are potentially being caused by a different fungus or bacteria.

      Hoping to have the Scalp Control Oil ready in about a month.
      However, it was originally planned for release in January (had some delays in formulation testing).

      Personally, I would try to get some medical testing done (scalp microbiota, intestinal microflora, and perhaps all the typical tests as well).
      Perhaps this may uncover something that is causing these issues for your daughter.

      Hope that helps and best of luck finding something that can finally help your daughter.
      Look forward to any updates.

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      • Susie Profile Photo
        Susie

        Hi Michael, Thanks for your response to my questions. My daughter developed SD on her scalp and ear right after taking antibiotics for 24 days. When I went to him for her scalp, he prescribed antibiotics again and her scalp has since spiraled out of control and I can’t seem to control it. In your opinion is her condition somehow related to the antibiotics? I only ask because you mentioned her intestinal microflora. When I asked my doctor if the SD could have been induced by the antibiotics, he said he had never heard of that before. I am patiently waiting to see a dermatologist and have her on very good probiotics in the meantime. I read that she was too young to have it caused by Malassezia so I’m hoping for some answers…..ugh!

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        • Håkan Profile Photo
          Håkan

          Hi Susie

          My SD also started after taking antibiotics. I really regret taking it since it was not a matter of life or death.

          I have been reading about other SD sufferers as well, that developed SD after taking antibiotics.

          In Sweden where i live the country has set a goal to decrease the use of antibiotics by 50% since it causes a increasing rate of multi resistent bacterias.

          Probably you know that 70-80 of the human immune system is related to the gut and the probiotic bacterias. So it’s easy to figure out that it’s bad for our health to let antibiotics kill these good bacterias.

          It’s really a huge problem that dockors don’t know or don’t care about the side effects of drugs, and that they know so little about how the human body can stay healthy by providing it with the nutrition it needs.

          Here are two of the best sites on how to heal naturally and stay away from drugs that harm:

          mercola.com and nutritionfacts.org

          Best of wishes

          Håkan in Sweden

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        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Susie,

          Thanks for the additional details.

          Our intestinal microflora does seem to play a significant role in the state of our overall immunity.

          For example. the intestinal bacteria have a role in synthesis of vitamins B and K plus a myraid of other vital roles in overll nutrient metabolism (source).

          In addition various components of body immune function may be influenced by our intestinal environments. For example, much of IgA synthesis occurs in the gut (source) and appears to be directly influenced by the present bacterial flora.

          From this one could assume that the antibiotics may have negatively influenced her intestinal environment. And her skin simply doesn’t have all the nutrients/components required to stay healthy.

          One of my relatives kids was born with a defected microflora and had tons of issues with eczema and various other bodily functions. Only after several years of high potency probiotics (they came in liquid and required cold storage) was he able to restore his child’s state.

          Perhaps seeking the guidance of a gastroenterologist may be a good option.

          Hope you finally find the cause of your daughters issues.
          Look forward to any updates.

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  44. deborah Profile Photo
    deborah

    Hi Michael

    I have two questions:
    Is it okay to use BIOM8 if one has acne as well as dermatitis?
    Using BIOM8 on the scalp – for a woman with long hair, it made the hair very oily and really difficult to shampoo out, even trying really hard to put it on the scalp only. Would you suggest using the oil free stuff?

    Many thanks

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Deborah,

      Sorry for such a delay in responding.
      Biom8 shouldn’t have any negative effects on acne. However, I personally don’t have too much experience with this.
      Another user who was battling both issues at the same time didn’t seem to have any issues.

      In terms of scalp usage, most users report simply mixing it with their shampoo while in the shower.
      Have tried this on several occasions and it seemed to leave the hair feeling quite healthy. However, I have short hair.

      The Scalp Control Oil planned for release mid April. For this I am trying to get a way to apply a modified version of the original oil directly to the scalp and also a stronger concentration of the probiotic formulation.
      Not sure if it will be a two step product or two separate ones. Will update once everything is ready.

      Hope you manage to help some results though and look forward to hearing how things go.
      All the best.

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  45. Susie B Profile Photo
    Susie B

    Hi there, my daughter is 9 years old and a month ago went from dry flakes to severe scabs/crust covering her entire scalp. I just recently purchased your suggested Andalou shampoo along with Biom8. I’m praying this works. Please let me know when your new scalp product will become available to purchase. I’m so desperate to help her itchy, scabbed, very red scalp!

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Susie,

      Sorry to hear that your daughter has to suffer through this. And obviously it must be difficult for you as a parent as well.
      The Scalp Control Oil was planned to be release in January, but there have been some delays due to formulation testing. At this moment, a mid April release date is planned.

      Due to your daughters age I would personally hypothesis that her seborrheic dermatitis may not be caused by Malassezia (the most commonly documented cause).
      This is because the fungus requires substantial amounts of sebum/lipids to thrive. And at that age the sebaceous glands are typically not very active.

      An detailed analysis of your daughters scalp microbiota may be helpful at pin-pointing what exactly may be wrong.
      Contacting a local dermatologist may help in getting this type of testing done.

      Hope that helps and hope you finally find something that can relieve your daughters scalp.
      Look forward to any updates.

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  46. Greg Profile Photo
    Greg

    Michael,

    I recently ordered the product to the New England region of the United States. Any ideas how long it could potentially take to get here? I began seeing signs of seb derm this summer once I started working an office job inside all day after I graduated from college. Not sure if this would contribute to the cause. My lone break outs are just around the T portion of my face. I am extremely fair skinned so I am assuming this is a major factor. Any feedback/advice would be great, Thanks.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Greg,

      Sorry for the delayed response (a ton of emails are coming from the Biom8 contact form and these take priority).
      Your order was shipped on March 7th. Typical delivery time to the USA has been 5-8 business days. Based on this your product should have arrived by March 17th.

      Also you should have received a download link for the eBook as well, most of the stuff I’ve learn about SD is inside those pages.

      Hopefully your results are similar to mine and you can finally find some relief.
      If you have the time, would love to hear how things go.

      All the best.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Norma,

      Currently all Biom8 orders are shipped via Canada Post (Canada’s shipping service).
      During checkout you should have the option of selecting the shipping method most suitable for you.
      Processing typically takes 2-3 business (time from receiving order until it is shipped).

      Hope that answers you questions and your results are similar to mine.
      Look forward to any updates.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Norma,

      Currently all Biom8 orders are shipped via Canada Post (Canada’s shipping service).
      During checkout you should have the option of selecting the shipping method most suitable for you.
      Processing typically takes 2-3 business (time from receiving order until it is shipped).

      Hope that answers your questions and your results are similar to mine.
      Look forward to any updates.

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  47. Janis Profile Photo
    Janis

    Hello,

    I developed SD on my scalp and ears for the first time in my life in December of 2015 and have been struggling to find good information. There are a lot of contradictions out there and my dermatologist prescribed steroids which made my ears bleed. I am very frustrated as this has been going on for months. I see that you say you use the Biom8 on your ears, but I don’t see posts from any other people who have used it in that area. Do you have any feedback from people who use it on the ears?

    Thank you for this website.

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    • Donna Profile Photo
      Donna

      Hi there,
      I have used BIOM8 on my ears. Actually my right ear which is the only ear I get it in (a mystery in itself!). I did’nt mention it in my profile because it’s a rare occurrence. My main areas were around my nose and on my chin. They are still free from itching and flaking with daily use of BIOM8. When I feel any itching or burning around my ear, I immediately put some lotion on it and it goes very quickly. I get mine on the skin just inside the ear but not in the ear canal. Hope this is helpful.
      Hope this is helpful.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Janis,

      Sorry to hear that you have the misfortune of having to deal with SD.
      Personally, use Biom8 for my ears almost every night (using the same approach as outline in the main usage instructions). Ears have remained clear since I’ve started this. Overall though it doesn’t seem to work for 100% of people, however for those who it does work for it seems to be quite effective.

      Hope that helps and you finally find something to help resolve your issues.
      Best of luck and thanks for the positive feedback.

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  48. Alexey Profile Photo
    Alexey

    Hi, Michael.

    I live in Russia, I’m 28 and I have SD.

    Maybe I don’t know English well but I’ll try to speak because I need it.

    I have SD for a year. It’s on my forehead (the biggest part of SD), my right cheek and maybe its little parts everywhere on my face and right below my ears but they are not visible most of the time.
    My SD is followed by a acne everywhere as mentioned above. I haven’t dandruff or same with my scalp except couple of pimples here and there. My SD isn’t dry but very oily. There is nothing about dryness at all, by the way.
    I have a hair loss on a forehead and nowhere else (I hope so).
    Also, I do not shave the face so the beard and mustache can hide the appearance of the disease. I also have a forelock on my forehead to hide the redness and pimples on it, but with hair loss the situation can get worse and I’ll have to wear a hat always and everywhere in public.

    All of the dermatologists prescribes steroid creams for two weeks and then some unsuccessful treatment such as zinc pyrithione and other doubtful meds.

    For now I’m using that steroid cream and some of those prescriptions (don’t know why) for about 6-7 months almost without interruption. Every time the first reaction on revocation of steroid cream is rapid redness and progressive acne (sorry, don’t know how to say it).

    I hate that acne more than redness and I want to get rid of it before it ruin my marriage, my life, my career and my assurance.

    I have just couple of questions to you.

    How to cancel use steroid creams right now but before I can get your BIOM8 if it’s possible?

    It’s shipping of BIOM8 to Russia is possible?

    I want to cancel all of my current “therapy” and start treatment from the beginning but with brand new therapy.

    What to use with BIOM8 and how necessary it is?

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      Alexey

      Google Translate decided to call ‘self-confidence’ as ‘assurance’ so it could sound ambiguously 🙂
      However, I don’t want to loose my self-confidence.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Alexey,

      First of all, sorry for the immensely delayed response.

      No worries about the English. Everything made sense and was readable. Hopefully you can translate my response just as effectively.

      In terms of hair-loss, I’ve been doing more research on this topic and hope to provide a more detailed analysis of why it occurs together with SD. This is a new section for the eBook and there will be a post on the website on this topic as well. It’s a bit big to cover in a comment.

      Overall I believe there are three aspects to the puzzle. Diet, hormones/stress and microbial communities. These are discussed in the eBook. You should have got a download link with the Biom8 order. Not sure how well it would Google Translate though. So, feel free to post any questions you may have about the contents.

      Your order has already shipped a few weeks ago. Hopefully it has already arrived! If possible, keep me posted on it’s shipping progress.

      PS. I’m fluent in Russian, so feel free to drop me a personal message via the contact form if necessary. Overall though, public communication is best as others get access to potentially relevant discussion.

      Hope things turn for the best!
      Look forward to hearing from you.

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    • Mike Profile Photo
      Mike

      Believe it or not, what causes your skin to get oily is being dry. That is why people with seb derm need to use extra moisturizer compared with an average person. When your skin is dry, it releases the oil to compensate for the dryness which makes you think your skin is not dry when in fact it is.

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    Kim

    I’ve been following this website for quite sometime. I started getting SB when I moved from Texas to Wisconsin. The hot/cold dry air really makes it flare up. I went to a dermatologist, and they prescribed me Ketoconozole and Fluticasone which cleared it up, but the redness is back after I stopped using the two medications.

    Right now, I am washing my face twice a day with the Restoraderm Eczema Body Wash which is very gentle then I apply CeraVe moisturizer. It seems to keep the flakiness at bay, but a slight the redness is still there – especially at the corners of my mouth. I recently started using Apple Cider Vinegar as a toner to see if that helps overall with the redness.

    I don’t want to use the medications because they lose effectiveness over time, and I want to be able to rely on them when I have a bad flare up. I ordered the Biom8 and probiotic spray, and I plan on integrating them into my routine. I will report back in a month or so. Wish me luck!

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Kim,

      Thanks for reaching out and providing an update. Welcome to the community.
      Happy to hear that you’ve have fairly good results with the Restoraderm. Hopefully, your results with the Biom8 are similar to mine (good chance, since you saw improvement from the Restoaderm as well).

      Best of luck to you and looking forward to any future updates!

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  50. Chris Profile Photo
    Chris

    Hi again Michael,

    I’m glad you may have found a long term solution with the Biom8.

    I just wanted to let you know of my own progress. I have SD around my nose (the butterfly) and below it too. It is closely correlated with eating trigger foods such as red meat, soy sauce, vinegar, and spicy foods. I have mostly controlled it by avoiding those foods.

    I am currently travelling in Thailand and therefore I am using a lot of sunblock on my face to avoid burning. Well, what do you know? — I don’t have any SD. I think it matters what kind of sunblock I’m using: a natural zinc-based sunblock and not the oxybenzone, etc type that are more common in mainstream brands. My sunblock was bought in a health food store. I know you mentioned another zinc-based cream was helpful for SD so I wonder if zinc is key. My sunblock has 8% zinc oxide and 8% titanium oxide in it. I only use a tiny amount on my face so I’m not white at all. Maybe slightly shiny from the natural oils in the cream.

    I’m eating a lot of spicy food here in Thailand as you can imagine and so far, my skin has been completely clear. I’m not sure if it could be something else but I can’t think of anything else that I’m doing differently.

    Anyway, I thought I would share that.

    All the best,
    Chris

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      • Chris Profile Photo
        Chris

        I doubt it’s the Vit D from being in a sunny climate. I have supplemented with Vit D back home in Canada before but never noticed a clear beneficial effect. It could be helpful but maybe not decisively.

        On previous visits to Thailand, I did not use sunblock on my face and got lots of sun and had difficulty with my SD. The spicy foods really made it come out worse than ever.

        So at this point, the evidence point to the zinc oxide.

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        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Chris,

          Yeah, similar to you I don’t really think it’s Vitamin D. What I believe the reason to be, is that going to a different part of the earth shocks our microbial communities (topical and internal). This shift, may be beneficial and could results in clearance.

          Another aspect, is the hormonal/stress changes associated with travel and vacationing. It would be interesting to see if individuals constantly travel for work (as opposed to pleasure), report any changes to SD.

          All the best.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Chris,

      Thanks for the update. And yeah I’ve seen this reported by other individuals as well.
      The zinc oxide contained in a large number of sun-blocks appears to be quite beneficial for SD.
      Some have even reported using a daily moisturizer that that has a mild SPF and getting similar results.

      The only downside is that it provides a sort of whitening effect to the skin (at least for some).

      Thanks again for the update.
      All the best and hope your enjoying Thailand.

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  51. Eze Profile Photo
    Eze

    Thought I would update on the Seb Derm.

    My seb derm is REALLY improving. I’ve been eating heavy carbs/sugars which are normally big triggers for me. Taking MSM and Milk thistle has virtually eliminated the problems. There’s still some red irritation… and the reason why is….

    Masturbation.

    For any guy who is reading this and has the seb derm along nasal folds… masturbation is an absolute trigger for me. I’ve been doing MSM for 3 weeks and after the first week I was super clear. Then I had sex. And BAM 3 hours later I had red itches and blotches. A week later I got clear again… and on saturday again I masturbated. Bam red itches and blotches.

    I’ve also read another guy who experienced the same thing with his Seb Derm. He also rid his seb derm by doing NoFap. I’m doing it now and the improvements are miraculous.

    I’ve been on NoFap before but it never helped my seb derm because I wasn’t taking MSM and Milk Thistle. I believe that some versions of Seb Derm are diet related and caused by Liver issues. MSM and Milk thistle help the liver. Masturbation alters liver function negatively.

    It’s something else to try for those sufferers out there.
    I hope to try Biom8 when I get back to the States as well. Hopefully it’s going to be the final step to 100% free.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Eze,

      The masturbation subject can be a little controversial.

      My take is that that the state of mind may have a big impact on the outcome in terms of SD. As masturbation in a depressed state may trigger hormonal changes that differ significantly from a more pleasantly excited state (typically how a person feels during the actual act of true fornication with the opposite sex). This is just a theory and I couldn’t really find any research to back it up.

      Happy to hear that your skin is improving though. 🙂
      Hope that the Biom8 can add the final ingredient your skin needs for complete clearance.

      Hope that helps and best of luck mate!

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  52. Nic Profile Photo
    Nic

    I decided to try MSM only yesterday and I’ve noticed a big improvement in my skin! Normally I’d notice that the skin on my eyebrows would produce faster than usual (which somehow led to a bit of hair loss whenever I washed them). Unfortunately biom8 didn’t work for my skin very much and no other topical treatments have worked for me either. I’ve only been taking MSM tablets for 2 days now but I’m quite sure it’s made an improvement to my skin. The skin on my forehead is smoother and I don’t see as much hair loss. I definitely have to give it more time and I’ll update on any progress. I only realize now that my problem has something to do with what I’m eating, or what I’m not eating, I’m really not too sure. But anyway, best of luck to everyone! I’ll update again after a while.

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      • Alexey Profile Photo
        Alexey

        I think my hair loss is linked with my SD somehow.
        Eyebrows isn’t affected but zones above my forehead are very affected.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Nic,

      Thanks for the update. Happy to hear that the MSM is working for you.
      Unfortunately my results were quite unimpressive.

      How have things turned out since?

      All the best.

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      • Nic Profile Photo
        Nic

        Sorry for the late reply, I’ve lately tried Humaworm to see if it would help. I’ve stopped taking MSM but the Humaworm tablets do a similar job in clearing my skin. The hair loss is still the same though unfortunately. I’ve made so many changes to my diet but still it doesn’t seem to do much at curing my problem, but I think I’m controlling it better.

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  53. Donna Profile Photo
    Donna

    Hi all. Just a quick update. Despite all my sugar consumption (which in the past was often followed by a seb. derm. outbreak) during the festive season, I remain rash, redness and flake free! Since day 3 of using BIOM8 I have had no new breakouts. Its now been over 3 months.
    I sincerely hope others have the success I have with it.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Donna,

      Thanks for the update! Glad to hear that it’s working so well for you.
      Admittedly, I’ve been bingeing on quite a bit of sweets and poor dietary choices myself. However, my skin remain SD free as well.

      How did it work out for your friend?

      All the best!

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  54. Eze Profile Photo
    Eze

    SEB DERM Brothers/Sisters.

    I have found a cure for those who suffer food related Seb Derm!

    MSM!
    (METHYLSULFONYLMETHANE)

    My triggers are foods, Sugars, Histamines, and Hot liquids. I have been taking MSM megadoses about 4.5g a day and I have not broken out. My skin and existing redness has virtually disappeared. The deep redness is gone and I have been able to eat all foods without reactions. In addition some of the inflammation in the rest of my body has been released. I feel amazing and I HAVE to share this cure with everyone.

    Please Please Please. I beg you my fellow sufferers try this. It has also been shown to have significant benefits for Rosacea sufferers too. There’s also no known toxicity level for MSM, and Sulfur is the 3rd most common element in the body. It’s involved in many active mechanisms in the body including carb metabolism which is the main reason I started taking it.

    Why this helps? There are multiple theories including Methylation, Carb metabolism, candida elimination and liver improvement. I don’t know and frankly am not qualified to hypothesize the real reason it works. I took it because I had deuodneum ulcers and thought I might have H pylori. So I took about 3mg and on a fluke I ate a heavy carb dinner. This would DEFINITELY break me out the next day but nothing happened. I have been testing a week now and I am completely cure and I have been abusing my body with all my seb derm triggers.

    PLEASE give it a try and DEFINITELY respond if it works or doesn’t work!!!

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        Eze

        Ive been using Doctors Best MSM. 1500mg. I got it off of iherb. I think there are better brands out there though as this one contains mg sterate which is arugably unhealthy. But its been working thus far.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Eze,

      Thank you for sharing you experience.

      My experience with MSM was quite different. When I tried it I got really stuffed up (nose got clogged up and face felt kind of puffy). Took it for about two weeks in total, didn’t see much change in SD and all stuffiness went away once I stopped taking it.

      The brand I used is the same one you mentioned in the your next comment (Doctors Best).

      Also, there is a previous comment here a bit earlier regarding MSM. Their experience is the complete opposite and MSM is actually blamed for causing SD in the first place. So that is something to consider as well. Here is a direct link to that comment: Another Readers Experience With MSM.

      Additionally, as noted in my response to that readers comment, the MSM sold in jars is synthesized in a lab. It is not extracted from anything nor is it made using any fermentation process. So this is also something to keep in mind.

      Hope your results continue.
      All the best and thanks again for sharing.

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      • Eze Profile Photo
        Eze

        Im really sad that it didnt work out for you and the other user. I was hoping it would be somewhat of a universal cure but thats too optimistic.

        Im trying milk thistle today which is also reported to help. Have you tried it? There seems to be more reports with milk thistle than MSM and more strongly negative or Positive. Il report my findings.

        I feel as though these experiments are getting us closer to a cause. Or perhaps since our experiences differ it might be different causes.

        I know some people had their first outbreaks beacuse of sunbeds (mine was). Some from alcohol. Others from just sun or random triggers.

        Ultimately i think itmight be all connected to the liver. The main reason I believe this is based on what everyone has written about rosacea and seb derm causes all seem to point to toxin or metabolic overload.

        Alcohol and sugar are the two biggest triggers and the main factor connecting is the metabolic pathways. They are nearly identical according to pr. Lustiq.

        TCM also claims that acne rosacea is connected to Liver and lungs. Im not a TCM advocate but sometimes building anecdotal evidence can elict validity.

        The only total WTF that throws me for a loop is why hot liquids a trigger??? Everything else fits some medical model…

        Perhaps its mucosal related as well. It also fits your experience. Gut mucosa could be connected to the sinuses signaling pathways and i had read about this. Which explains why some foods trigger allergy reactions in seb derm sufferers since the allergy areas are the same places as .the sinuses and a histamine reaction triggered by the gut is causing the inflammation. Msm is said to help produce mucosa and reduce inflammation. Perhaps one of these mechanisms is the reason its working for me…

        I have theories for days so il report my findings on milk thistle and stop the ranting lol.

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          Håkan

          Hi Eze

          How are thing going with the milk thistle?

          Interesting to read your info on gut, liver, allergi and sinus. Are you having sinus issues?

          I have a chronic sinus issue. I think it started as a child when I was jumping and playing in hay at my grand mothers Hi Eze

          How are thing going with the milk thistle?

          Interesting to read your info on gut, liver, allergi and sinus. Are you having sinus issues?

          I have a chronic sinus issue. I think it started as a child when I was jumping and playing in hay all summers.

          I keep my SD in control by avoiding sugar, alcohol, gluten and processed foods. Outdoor activities works great to. I only use water based topical probiotics on face and wash it with water only.

          I’m starting the John Vale skin clear programme 25th of January. Will come back with updates.

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          • Eze Profile Photo
            Eze

            Hi Hakan,

            You know… now that you mentioned it. I did have a lung infection that required a part of my lung removed. I was a heavy smoker and had pneumonia as well.

            Perhaps the two are related? Now though, I don’t have any other sinus issues. Pretty clear and I don’t get stuffy or anything.

            Otherwise, the MSM and Milk thistle are doing AMAZING jobs. I’m so clear and I can eat sugar carbs, etc… (Haven’t tried alcohol and never will)

            I’ve been regaining back my weight and feel very happy. One more important tidbit is that I found that masturbation will DESTROY my face again. It absolute messes with any gains and it persists for a week to heal back. I’ve read that masturbation alters liver function as well. And interestingly enough during victorian days they said that people with Rosacea were Chronic mastubators. There might be something very true about it. (Bill Clinton lol).

            Anyways… I am simply very clear. Not perfect, but that’s also because I masturbated a few days ago (Which is why I know it’s a cause of seb derm as I’ve been experimenting with it). If I’m fully clear within 2 weeks… I’m going to start posting everywhere with this cure.

            1) MSM
            2) Milk Thistle
            3) No Masturbation

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Eze,

            Just had another quick question.
            How have the results of this 3 simple step solution held up with the passage or time?

            Look forward to hearing back.

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Hakan,

            Long time no talk.

            Strange enough, I also have a chronic sinus issue since I was a child. It stays quite controlled with a good diet, but if I eat poorly I usually get stuffed up.

            How has the Clear Skin Program been going for you?
            Hope you seem some permanent improvements from it. Best of luck!

      • Donna Profile Photo
        Donna

        I tried MSM and it made my sebhorreic dermatitis worse and also made me feel quite unwell.

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      • Håkan Profile Photo
        Håkan

        Alexey,

        It’s hard to find any scientific proof for what Eze is saying.

        Not having sex is not the cure for SD.

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        • Eze Profile Photo
          Eze

          Lol there’s no scientific proof for anything. I wouldn’t have to theorize and test on myself if any of us could go to a doctor with “scientific proof”.

          Sorry but I’m not waiting for “scientific proof” of anything before I start curing my Seb Derm. If I’m going to wait for a double blind clinical trial for our problems we might be dead before that time.

          Look, I’m not saying don’t have children because you’re afraid of wasting your seed. All I’m saying as a chronic masturbator my seb derm got worse. I’ve stopped for about 2 weeks now and I’ve noticed improvements. The MSM, Milk thistle, and nofap has been a miracle so far. I haven’t had a flare up in the last two weeks AND I ate a whole bunch of trigger foods including histamines (mushrooms) and spicy foods with high carbs. No flare up.

          Just experiment on yourself. I don’t know what works for everybody so I’m trying to be helpful and share my findings.

          But by no means is what I’m doing scientific. But I wouldn’t be a fool either and wait around for a scientific journal or a doctor to help you. Because 1) Theres not that much money in seb derm so you aren’t going to get funded research anytime soon and 2) The research they have done has still been inconclusive.

          BTW. The MSM and Milk thistle HAVE actually been documented to help Rosacea, which is pretty much exactly the same for many seb derm sufferers.

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          • Håkan Profile Photo
            Håkan

            I understand you Eze. I just want to say that sex is not the cause of SD. It’s something else that is wrong that causes SD to flare up after sex.

            I have been reading about the connection between the liver, SD and sex. Maybe the root cause is liver broblems and not sex.

            One theory of my own is that men can loose too much zink during sex, since sperm contains zink.

            I understand that too much of anything can be bad. So too much sex might be bad also.

            I agree that we can’t only act on science. Specially not when dermatologists sais so since they only subscribe steroids and so on.

            But there is good science that deals with underlaying issues as well. Like mercola.com and nutritionfacts.org.

            Best of wishes Eze

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Eze,

            Thanks for your input into the discussion.
            Interesting take. However, I do believe there is money going into research on SD. The issue is that with many of the auto-immune/inflammatory types of diseases the research is often difficult. There is a large line of research that would suggest that many of these types of issues are strongly related to depression/stress.

            There are also arms of science which can even make you question reality (such as string theory and quantum physics). So it’s hard to really say anything with 100%. Sometimes when the mind is completely convinced of something, it would do as much ass possible to bend reality to match it’s beliefs.

            In terms of MSM and Sylarian (active ingredient in MSM), research does suggest it is potentially effective for certain sub-types of Rosacea. Here is the specific article: Combined effects of silymarin and methylsulfonylmethane in the management of rosacea: clinical and instrumental evaluation.

            Hope things continue for you!
            And thanks again for the updates. All the best.

  55. marco83 Profile Photo
    marco83

    Hi Michael,

    Been a while since i have been here, but wow! Great work!!

    Will definitley try your new product, but was wondering firstly. Do you have any experience with the drug Roaccutane / Accutane on the SD?

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Marco,

      Thanks for checking in and the positive feedback. 🙂
      Haven’t had much experience with these. However, I’ve encountered some cases during my research and time with the website. The sebum reduction they provide may be useful, however there does appear to be a rebound effect after treatment is stopped. Either way I don’t really have much experience on this and personally didn’t find much interest in this area.

      Hope that helps. Look forward to any updates.

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        marco83

        Well i am half way into the 6 month worth of pills. The sebum production has dramatically decreased and I’m basically drying up from he inside to the outside. The effect on my SD is still unknown as a side effect of these pills are extremely dry lips, eyes and skin. So i am flaking a lot due to the dry skin, hence difficult to see the effect on my SD.

        Think i will try your BIOM8 for the first time. Try it on a small area of my face now while im on the Roaccutane cure and try in full once im done with the pills and my skin is back to my normal SD skin so to say:)

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        • Brad Profile Photo
          Brad

          Hi Marco,

          I have had Roaccutane also in previous years for acne and was also wondering if it would have positive affects on SD as I now have SD on my face. Can you give me an update when you complete your Roaccutane course.

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          • Marco Profile Photo
            Marco

            Hi Brad,

            Still got 2-3 months left of a 6 months cure. Up until now it hasnt had any effect on my SD, although your skin get so dry on this drug that it is difficult to really know until i am done with it.

            What is has done is significantly reduce my oil skin / the sebum production. I thought SD was fed by the sebum so theoretically it should be reduced…..will keep you updated.

        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Marco,

          Thanks for the update.
          Hopefully your dryness resolves.

          Haven’t had any experience with Accutance myself, however, a friend who tried to cure his acne using this approach had a bunch of complaints. Basically, he informed my that it caused some types of irreversible changes to his skin and made it much more sensitive. In the end he actually reported using Olive Oil to get his skin back to a more health state. And he would literally slather the stuff on his face before bed and use an extra sheet to cover his pillow from getting drenched in oil.

          Hope everything improves and your skin stabilizes.
          Look forward to any updates. All the best.

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          • marco Profile Photo
            marco

            Little update on the Accutane cure here. This is not for the faint hearted, its hard and painful! Skin acting up, dry as Sahara and red like the sun. Shaving is painful and eye dries up to the extent you basically want to claw your eyes out! Same with the lips.

            As far as the effect on the SD it is impossible to know as the skin is so dry and is flaking all over the place (the non SD areas as well).

            I did try the BIOM8 for a few days, had to stop as it just worsen the flaking, much more of it than using normal moisturizers. I will try again not on the cure, but it doesnt look like it helps me at all

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Marco,

            Sorry to hear that your having to endure such a intense treatment approach. Hopefully it pays off in the end.
            A good friend of mine went through Accutance and hated it. Not so much during treatment, but more so because of the after-effects.
            He said it seemed to have changed his skin and made it much more sensitive to everything.

            Wish I had more information on this topic, but never it was never of much interest to me personally.

            If you find the time, would love to know how things unfold.
            All the best!

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      Michael

      Hi Patsy,

      Sorry for the delay in responding. The scalp version is not yet available. It was originally planned for early January release, however, there have been some unexpected delays. There are currently several versions out for testing and basically I’m just trying to decide which one is the best.

      Hope to have something out next week.
      Will update all the newsletter subscribers once it is released.

      Best of luck in 2016!

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  56. Kellie F. Profile Photo
    Kellie F.

    I started with biom8 in November.
    It didn’t treat the redness as much as I would have liked, but the “dry” spots on the folds of my nose went away and stayed away (which with other products is the first thing that came back). I used it once a day, usually after a shower.

    My concern is that I developed a stye in my left eye about two weeks after starting, then a chazalion in my right eye a week later. I have never had any of these before. I stopped using biom8 after the chazalion. (My eyelid swelled up to 4 times its normal size, so other parts of my face became more of an immediate concern).

    The only change to my routine was biom8. (However, I did have a nasty cough, so could have been bacteria from there or something.) My thought is if it is related to biom8, perhaps the oil clogged the glands there (even though I didn’t put it in my eyelashes directly).

    I’m curious if others have had this reaction. It seemed as though the propensity for styes/chazalions can be linked to other skin disorders.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Kellie,

      Happy to hear about your initial results, but it is very unfortunate what happened after. So far this is the first report of something like this.
      Didn’t respond right away as I wanted to think about what could have possible caused this.

      My current theory is potentially the bacteria/fungus tried to migrate away from areas of Biom8 application. Perhaps this caused them to infect the eyelids.

      Back when I was using the honey treatments there was a time where I got a persistent case of conjunctivitis (pink eye). Got a prescription from the doctor, but pink eye came back again after remission. Decided to stop the honey treatments for a bit and the conjunctivitis disappeared and never returned. After about a 1 month break I was able to return to using the honey. Can’t be 100% that the honey was the culprit in my experience, but the sequence of events led me to believe that this was the case.

      When using Biom8, I have been able to apply directly onto my eye lids without any issues (staying away from the eye lashes though). This hasn’t caused any issues for me so far.

      How have things been since? Any improvements/changes?

      Hope everything resolves in the end and you can finally get the SD under control in one way or another.
      Best of luck in the new year and look forward to any updates.

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  57. Håkan Profile Photo
    Håkan

    My seb derm on my forehead is finally improving by only washing my face with water. And without putting anything on afterwards.

    I followed the advice in an article written by a doctor on how to treat babies with seb derm. I gently pull away the flakes on my face with my hands when showering. Luke warm water or colder. I do this in the evening.

    Flakes are gone on at least 25% of my face after two showers. And the redness is reducing.

    I have seen others quit both loations and shampoos on forums with great results.

    It’ important to remove the flakes but don’t use nails.

    I’m still using a natural shampo for my scalp since this has worked very well for years. Pulling away flakes is also important here.

    Håkan

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Hakan,

      Thanks for the update. Personally, tried this approach on many occasions. It never really seemed to work out. At first, it would seem that things are improving, but in the end progress would either get stuck or reverse.

      One thing that I think is really important is improving circulation to the skin in these areas. Perhaps a light massage of the scalp or something similar may be beneficial.

      When shampooing, my scalp gets a nice massage and when using the Biom8, my facial skin gets a gentle massage as well. Important to note disrupt the skin barrier though by being to forceful/rough.

      All the best.

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  58. Hakan Profile Photo
    Hakan

    Hi all,

    Have anyone tried to get a free sample from http://seborrhex.co.uk/ or http://seborrhex.com/ ?

    I have tryed but has not received any mail from the to confirm this. I have not received any answers from them what so ever.

    Their Twitter and Facebook sites have not been updated since august 2015.

    If what they say about their product is true it’s amazing.

    Håkan

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  59. Ian Profile Photo
    Ian

    Got my BIOM8 oil today. Thanks, Michael!

    For those who suffer from seborrheic dermatitis with concomitant acne (as I am), the BIOM8 oil contains Sea Buckthorn Seed Oil which is a lightweight oil with a high amount of linoleic acid. Studies have shown that oils with greater percentages of linoleic acid are beneficial for acne-prone skin. Sebum composition in acne-prone skin has been found to have a higher percentage of oleic acid and is deficient in linoleic acid compared to the sebum composition in healthy skin.

    References:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2936775
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9692305

    So it should help both conditions, which is important because some treatments of seborrheic dermatitis and acne can conflict.

    Will let you know if I see improvements over the coming weeks.

    Cheers,

    Ian

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      Michael

      Hi Ian,

      Thanks for the update and the studies. Yeah, from the research that went into the formulation I also felt the Biom8 would actually be beneficial for acne.

      However, I never wanted to give a direct answer to people as I don’t have too much personal experience with acne.
      The closest thing I had was small papules which would arise from using some creams/lotions. Haven’t had anything like this from the Biom8.

      Look forward to any updates.
      All the best.

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      • Ian Profile Photo
        Ian

        Hi again Michael,

        Out of curiosity, while I don’t doubt that the high linoleic acid content of the Sea Buckthorn Seed Oil is probably helpful for my acne, I’m beginning to wonder what your reason is for
        including it in a formulation designed to tackle SD. I understand that you’ve included capric/caprylic acids because they’re medium-chain trigylcerides that the malassezia yeast can’t metabolise, but wouldn’t they be able to feed on the Sea Buckthorn Seed Oil? According to the research it seems that all plant oils actually run the risk of feeding the yeast we’re trying to keep in check, so wouldn’t including a plant oil here defeat the purpose?

        I’ve been using a small amount of the BIOM8 oil once a day for the past 3 weeks. I can’t really tell if it’s helping my SD at all, though at the very least it doesn’t appear to be aggravating it. I’m hoping that it’s simply that I need to give it more time, but it’d be comforting to know that it’s not actually helping to feed the yeast in the process!

        Thanks.

        – Ian

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        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Ian,

          The Sea Buckthorn Seed Oil was included because I believe it has good potential to improve rate of skin healing.

          An ingredient of the oil, palmitoleic acid, is a component of skin. It is considered a valuable topical agent in treating burns and healing wounds. This fatty acid can also nourish the skin when taken orally if adequate quantities of sea buckthorn or its oil are consumed; this is a useful method for treating systemic skin diseases, such as atopic dermatitis (14). The only other major plant source of palmitoleic acid is macadamia nuts; the oil is used to nourish the skin. Sea buckthorn oil is already widely used alone or in various preparations topically applied for burns, scalds, ulcerations, and infections.

          Source

          In Russia it use commonly used in skin care and is one of the more famous oils for this purpose.

          When combined in a specific ratio with the medium chain triglycerides it allows the skin to obtain the benefits of the Sea Buckthorn Seed Oil, while also protecting the oil from the malassezia.

          A good analogy would be the preservation of food with salt. Without an adequate concentration of salt the food would susceptible to microbial colonization. But when the amount of sodium is adequate microbial colonization is prevented and the food remains safe for consumption.

          Base on this I strongly believe that as long as malassezia is controlled, the skin is able to benefit from the Sea Buckthorn Seed Oil. This should then improve skin barrier function and help secure long term progress.

          If you not seeing any results with over 3 weeks of usage, my theory would be that either:

          • You are experiencing SD due to specific strain of malassezia which is immune to the anti-fungal fatty acids
          • Your seborrheic dermatitis may not be caused by malassezia at all (would be interesting to hear your results with the Demodex treatment)
          • Another user reported no results from the Skin Condition Oil in her fight against Folliculitis (also believed to be caused by malassezia), but has had much better success with the Probiotic Repair Spray

          Additionally, one thing to really consider is the amount of stress you may be introducing into your daily life by following such an extensive skin care regimen. I believe that sometimes just letting go and reducing things to a bare minimal can have a drastic results. This is obviously not the case for everyone, but one user has reported complete clearance of seborrheic dermatitis after being put on anti-depressants. Starting anti-depressants isn’t really the best solution, but it’s an example of how powerful the mental factor may be in the progression of skin conditions. A large section of the SkinDrone book is dedicated to discussing this.

          Here is a snippet from a fairly large study:

          Depression was two to three times more prevalent in acne patients than in the general population, with a reported 8.8% of acne patients having clinical depression. The majority of cases of depression and antidepressant therapy utilization were observed in acne patients aged 18 and over with the highest percentage in the 36–64 age group. Approximately 65.2% of the acne patient population was female, with twice as many reported to have depression as males (10.6% females vs. 5.3% males).

          source

          Let me know what you think.
          Best of luck and hope you finally manage to see some results.

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          • Ian Profile Photo
            Ian

            Hi Michael,

            Thanks for the explanation — it was the only ingredient on there whose purpose eluded me, but now it definitely makes sense!

            I’ll definitely check back in here once I’ve been using that crotamiton cream to either confirm or rule out a possible demodex involvement.

            With regards to my routine, honestly the only frustrating part of it was doing that raw honey mask every other night for 4 weeks, so as you can imagine it’s quite a relief to be done with that at this point, despite the lacklustre results. Without that, my routine just follows the “Cleanse, Treat, Moisturise” mantra that many chronic acne sufferers like myself end up needing to do. It was a nuisance at first but after many years of doing it I hardly even think about it when I do it — to me it’s like brushing my teeth and flossing. I try to ensure that the steps are kept to a minimum, and indeed that’s what compelled me to look for any “overlap” treatments like azelaic acid that would supposedly help my acne and SD simultaneously. If I ever add anything extra in, like the honey mask that I’m finished with and later this crotamiton cream, it’s with the knowledge that they’re just a temporary addition rather than something long-term. This way I’m not just compounding all these steps into something unwieldy that takes up too much time, causes stress, and thereby ultimately does more harm than good.

            I do understand the role of the “psychosomatic” factor to many skin conditions. That said, from my experience with acne, not caring about it at all (which is how I was during the first few years of suffering it) didn’t do any good either. It’s finding that balance of treating it but not letting the treatment consume your life. I might admittedly be guilty of going a bit overboard with regards to treating SD at the moment, but that could in part be because the condition is still quite new to me, the sudden influx of information that comes with a new condition can be overwhelming, and I’m still rather clueless on what path to take. By contrast, with acne I’m quite the seasoned veteran at this point where everything is old news, and have settled into a basic routine that keeps it mostly under control. It’s just a matter of finding a similar approach to SD. *fingers crossed*

            Thanks again for the help!

          • Nick Profile Photo
            Nick

            Wait now, you know that palmitoleic acid is lower in the seed oil? Are you not referring to the pulp oil?

  60. Heath Profile Photo
    Heath

    I’ve recently been to a doctor after having a food intolerance test and other than avoiding the foods I’m intolerant to I’ve been told to go on a “low-fodmap” diet as well as been given nystatin for oral consumption, L-glutamine, digestive enzymes and probiotics. It turns out I’m intolerant to dairy and eggs which I never noticed in the slightest before. This would explain why I always seem to be fighting the SD because I ate alot of eggs. I would advise anyone to get a food intolerance test and consultation with a doctor because you won’t really know what you’re intolerant to. Most of what was discussed with the doctor I already knew and partly thanks to Michael and this website however this “low-fodmap” diet is new to me and I’ve been on it for a few days. I haven’t used anything topically and haven’t felt any tingling or slight itches when the SD is in its development stages which is good. The doctor told me that this worked beautifully with a couple other patients and explained to me their situations too as I’m slightly doubtful having heard so many different things and been prescribed steroids etc.. Get a test if you can afford it and if not maybe just try the diet. Good luck people 🙂

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Heath,

      Thanks for the update. Definitely a good idea to get proper testing done.
      What type of medical professional was this and do you know what the test was called?
      Perhaps will write a more detailed post discussing this diet and how to best get tested.

      Personally tried this diet before, thought it helped a little, but wasn’t really a long term thing for me. Currently very flexible/open with my diet and skin remains clear.

      Thanks again.
      All the best.

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      • Heath Profile Photo
        Heath

        The low-fodmap is definitely different and difficult and I haven’t stuck to it 100% yet so I’m not entirely sure of the effects but the elimination of other foods I’m intolerant to seem to have made so much of a difference I’m only left with scarring to heal without using anything topically for the first time since I got this ailment. I’d just like to say that even though i was applying things topically, the SD always seemed to be underlying or resurfacing and I told myself it was ok and that I could keep going on using whatever product but the fact is that SD builds tolerances to whatever you’re applying to it and subconciously I knew all this but I didn’t want to accept it because that would mean I was stuck with SD forever but I’ve recently found out that that is not true!
        The blood test is call an IgG blood test testing the antibodies in the blood (by FoodPrint® testing 200+ foods). The clinic was JTS medical clinic in Dubai specializing in a wide range of medical fields, I carefully picked this certain clinic after asking them and a few others about the relationship between dermatitis and food intolerances and apparently there’s a recognized connection (even mentioned in the FoodPrint® brochure) that I guess a lot of Dermatologist aren’t aware of.
        I seriously would suggest to anyone who is suffering with moderate to severe cases of SD and it’s affecting them daily to go and get a food intolerance test and follow the instruction before and after.. I’ve done elimination diets in the past and never found out about the many of foods I was intolerant to..
        So to be brutally honest you can either get a food intolerance test done or keep applying products or do nothing.. You’re in control of your SD and your S. Destiny 🙂
        (PS I too have spent a couple years doing research + this site is the best)

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        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Heath,

          Thanks for providing the details.

          Yeah, food definitely has a role to play, but for me personally it’s role has been rather illusive. And in terms of the low-fodmap, I personally believe the connection may not be as direct. The low-fodmap diet likely impacts (lowers) sebum production and this in turn improve seborrheic dermatitis (by starving the malassezia of it’s food source).

          Overall, though anything that impacts the immune system appears to directly impact seborrheic dermatitis progress. For some it an be stress, food, or a variety of other factors.

          How have things progressed since our last communication?
          Perhaps, if results locked-in you can submit a more detailed report of your story and how things ended. This may be of benefit to other going down this unfortunate journey.

          PS> Thanks for the positive feedback. 🙂

          Happy holidays and best of luck in the new year!

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  61. Steve Profile Photo
    Steve

    Hi Michael, thank you for your amazing effort. I am truly appreciative of all the research you’ve done.

    In terms of application of the BIOM8, how much do you have to massage it in as I’ve found it hard in the past to massage anything into my eyebrows, especially as they are delicate & fall out easily. It always seems so hard to get rid of flakes by the follicles.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Steve,

      Thanks for the feedback. For the Biom8 you just have to massage it light into the skin. For the delicate areas, you can go a little easier while the skin heals and recovers.
      One user reported using tweezers to really get the Biom8 into the skin in the eyebrows. Here is the method he provided by email:

      I came up with an interesting way to make sure everything gets covered. I found one of those small nail scissors in the house where each side has a flat, wide surface – I clean it, put some of the oil on one side, gently place behind it the hairs (using the flat part) to get to the roots & it spread it underneath. Then I can use my finger.

      Hope that helps.
      Best of luck!

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  62. Ian Profile Photo
    Ian

    Hi Michael,

    Have just ordered your BIOM8 as well as I figured it’s worth a shot!

    My case of Seb Derm is mostly a cosmetic concern about the constant redness on the sides of my nose and (albeit to a much lesser extent) the crease midway between my mouth and chin. I’m fortunate that flakiness and itchiness have only been minor problems that I don’t experience often in these areas, but the lingering redness has by and large been the most frustrating aspect that I can’t seem to resolve. For the past couple years I haven’t remembered a single moment where there hasn’t been a fair amount of nasolabial redness (and I made the common mistake of initially attributing it to dryness and over-moisturising those areas, which either didn’t work or exacerbated it).

    I also suffer from dandruff in the scalp, sideburns, moustache, and beard but I’ve had a lot of success controlling that with rotating through a couple medicated anti-dandruff shampoos. That said, I’d much prefer to use something to treat my facial hair dandruff that is kinder to my face’s skin than a shampoo (which obviously is designed for use on the scalp, not the face). One of the things that appeals to me about BIOM8 oil is that since it’d have an oily consistency it ought to be a good candidate for that, compared to anti-fungal creams whose texture makes it impractical to treat the beard and moustache.

    I have a couple questions:

    1.) Have you been using BIOM8 oil after cleansing both morning and night, or just once a day?

    2.) As I mentioned, redness is my primary concern, far more than any flakiness or itchiness. Has this oil had a lot of success treating that in particular?

    Thanks!

    Best regards from the UK,

    Ian

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Ian.

      Sorry for the delay in response.
      Thanks for the update and hope you have similar results to mine.

      As your describe your SD, it sounds pretty much the same as mine was. But I had lots of issues with flakes on the eyebrows, nose, ears and at times the forehead.
      The Biom8 has definitely been much kinder to my skin then anything I’ve used (even the Restoraderm) as it doesn’t seem to strip anything. Instead it just seems to absorb right into the skin and stabilize everything.
      Many of my friends (without) SD have even started using Biom8 and the thing I hear repeatedly is how well is absorbs. Plus it’s not a thick oil so it should be great for the beard.

      Regarding your questions:

      1. Use the Biom8 on a regular basis before bed, but not 100% consistency. Sometimes I can use it twice a day or even 3 times. It really depends on what I’m doing that day. But basically any time I sweat heavy or feel like rinsing my face, I apply Biom8 after (gym, pool, getting dirty, etc).
      2. For me redness hasn’t been a problem since I’ve started using Biom8. Others have reported good results for Rosacea and other similar conditions as well. So I think it should be beneficial.

      Let me know if I’ve missed anything and look forward to any updates.
      Hope it works out for you and best of luck!

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  63. Nic Profile Photo
    Nic

    Hi Michael, I have SD on my eyebrows which causes hair loss. I purchased Biom8 and was wondering whether it should stop the hair loss? Did you experience anything like this also? It’s mentioned as well that it makes an excellent tanning oil, what does this mean though if I wanted to apply it to my face only to get rid of the SD on my eyebrows? Also, is there a chance my skin will eventually become immune to this oil or if I stopped using it will the SD perhaps return?
    Thank you!

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Nic,

      From everything I’ve learnt so far the hair loss is basically the result of fungus invading the hair follicles. Once the fungal activity is controlled the hair loss issues appear to resolve themselves.
      If your own hair loss issues are associated with a different cause, results may be different.

      When I had issues with SD on my eye-brows I experience hair loss as well. Controlling the SD would always stop/reverse the hair loss.
      Currently with Biom8, my eyebrows are very health and have not had any issues since starting it’s usage.

      Anything is possible as living organism (including fungus) have the ability to mutate and adapt.
      Hopefully it works indefinitely.

      For long term usage, I personally like it very much so I don’t have any issues with this.
      Also, since I made it myself and know the origin of the ingredients I’ve never really second-guessed it’s usage.
      Many of my friends who don’t even have SD have been asking for it as well. My skin looks really healthy and vibrant, so people have been naturally asking me what I use.

      Hope that helps and best of luck with the Biom8. Hopefully your results are similar to mine.
      Look forward to any updates.

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  64. Kay Profile Photo
    Kay

    Hey,

    I really like the Biom8 so far! Just wondering, how does one apply it with makeup? I’m a little nervous about it because I know oil-based makeup makes seborrheic dermatitis worse.

    Thanks!

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    • Donna Profile Photo
      Donna

      Hi Kay,
      I wear makeup to work everyday and have not had any problem using the BIOM8 with it.
      What I do is I wash my face with cool water in the morning and apply a tiny bit of BIOM8 as per Michaels instructions while my face is still slightly damp, massaging it in well (my problem skin is around my nose and chin so thats where I put the most BIOM8. I only give my forehead a quick swipe because I find my makeup can get a little shiny in that area if I put too much there). I wait a short while for it to absorb then apply my makeup. I bought the large bottle of BIOM8 (250mls) so use that to remove my makeup as well. Also use it as a moisturiser over my whole body straight after a shower again whilst skin is still slightly damp. I too was told not to use oils on Seb. Derm but find BIOM8 is an exception, my skin is clear after a very long time and has been for approx. 2 months. Good luck 🙂 PS. I use an oil free makeup made especially for sensitive skin.

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      • Kellie F. Profile Photo
        Kellie F.

        I’m curious, what brand of make-up do you use?
        I’m wondering if my make-up/sunscreen ingredients are making mine worse…

        Thanks

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        • Donna Profile Photo
          Donna

          Hi,
          I use Clinique Redness Solutions- it’s quite expensive ie AUD $50, but lasts for ages. When I am makeup free I use Cetaphil Suntivity SPF 30 (Face) which also comes in SPF 50. It’s non greasy and paraben free around AUD $15. I’ve tried the other Clinique foundations but have found the a Redness solutions is the only one I don’t react to.

          Reply
      • Kay Profile Photo
        Kay

        Hi Donna,

        Thank you so much for your help! It’s very useful. Just a couple of questions about your routine:
        – Do you use foundation as well as a concealer, and if so, which oil-free brands do you use?
        – When removing the makeup with Biom8, do you just squirt some of it onto a makeup removing cloth or cottonball?

        Thanks again, I appreciate it! It’s so great to hear that I can potentially wear makeup again haha.

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        • Donna Profile Photo
          Donna

          Yes I do use a concealer but only in the areas I don’t get Seb Derm. It’s not oil free. Max Factor Pan Stick which I use on my eye lids, as a base for my powder eyeshadow, and as a base for my lipstick (little tricks a makeup artist told me which stop eyeshadow from going into the creases and helps my lipstick stay put). I also apply a little under my eyes for occasional dark rings using the dab, dab application technique 🙂 For taking my makeup off I wet my clean hands and put a little BIOM8 on them then wipe that over my face. I then get some baby wipes (fragrance free and rinsed under water for good measure to remove anything which could possible irritate my skin then remove my makeup with them. I repeat the process, rince my face with cool water then apply a tiny bit of BIOM8 massaging in well as per Michaels instructions. It all sounds like a bit to do, but it really doesn’t take long at all. I use baby wipes because they are convenient and saves washing face washers which breed bacteria anyway. I don’t use a heavy duty mascara so I don’t know if my makeup removing technique would work with that. Hope this helps!

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      • Michael Profile Photo
        Michael

        Hi Donna,
        Thanks for addressing the question. 🙂 Personally lack any experience with it’s use alongside make-up..
        But, this is the exact approach I would have suggested (apply Biom8, allow to absorb, and apply makeup over-top).

        Glad to hear your results continue as well!
        All the best.

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      • Michele Carter Profile Photo
        Michele Carter

        I am so pleased with your comments. I have a problem with the SD. on my eyelids. It makes my eyelashes think out and I keep it as clean as possible. I cannot seem to control it on my eyes. What could I use so I could wear eye makeup again. It has been about a year since I could wear mascara. I look forward to your advice.

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        • Amelia Profile Photo
          Amelia

          Hi Michele,
          I have the same symptoms from SD on my right eye (thinning/loss of lashes). I was wondering if you have found anything that helps yet?

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  65. Hakan Profile Photo
    Hakan

    Hi all,

    I just found the most important article on treating the cause of skin problems, that I have come across in 10 years.

    http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=787388

    Clinical and investigative studies confirm that supplementation with a combination of flaxseed, borage and fish oils at the correct dosages during ca two months, is an important step to improving skin texture, skin complexion and the treatment of certain skin disorders (eczema, psoriasis and some cases of acne), due to their effects on promoting the production of prostaglandins PG-1 and PG-3 in the skin.

    Processed foods like sugar and alcohol and so on promotes the procuction of PG-2 which makes the skin red, dra, scaly and infected.

    I will try to find the correct dosage for this and go for it a few months. Will get back with results.

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    • Kellie F. Profile Photo
      Kellie F.

      I’m curious if there is a difference in plant based omega 3s and fish based omega 3s.

      Reply
      • Michael Profile Photo
        Michael

        Hi Kellie,

        There is a significant difference between plant based omega 3s and fish based omega 3s.
        Here is the relevant snippet out of the Omega chapter from the book I’m working on:

        Falling under the classification omega-3s are a large number of specific fatty acids, which we obtain from many different sources.

        The most researched of theses are DHA and EPA. These omega-3 fatty acids can be obtained through diet (mainly from seafood) or synthesized within the body from ALA (alpha-linolenic acid – another omega-3). However, the conversion of ALA to to DHA and EPA is not very efficient (conversion efficiency is below 5%). Additionally, the process used for conversion of ALA directly competes with the breakdown of omega-6 fatty acids. As a result, an abundance of omega-6 fatty acids further decreases the efficiency for humans to obtain needed EPA and DHA (from ALA) declines further. Luckily, DHA and EPA can be obtained directly through diet.

        Fish and marine products are the best source of DHA and EPA. However, there is significant variant among different fish species. For example, while Pacific Herring can have 1.06g of EPA and 0.75g of DHA per 3 ounce serving, Pacific Cod only has 0.09g of EPA and 0.15 of DHA for the same 3 ounce portion. As a result, some marine products are much better than others for obtaining these fatty acids.

        ALA is widely available from plant sources. The most popular of these appears to be Flax Seeds, which contain roughly 50% of its oil composition in the form of ALA. As a result, a single tablespoon of ground flax seed contains about 1600 mg of ALA. At the 5% efficiency level mentioned above, this can be converted to about 80 mg of DHA and EPA, which is actually quite unimpressive. However, the pure oil is a little better as a single tablespoon contains 8.5g of ALA (425 mg ALA and EPA). Some other sources of ALA include:

        – Walnuts (1 ounce = 2.6 ALA)
        – Canola Oil (1 tablespoon = 1.2 ALA)
        – Mustard Oil (1 tablespoon = 0.8 ALA)

        However, because these plant sources of omega-3 always contain some quantity of omega-6, the final amount of obtained DHA and EPA is unclear.

        The full chapter draft can be found here.
        Hope that helps and all the best.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Hakan,

      Thanks for the link.

      Personally stay away from Curezone as it has provided lot’s of stress and confusion for me in the past.
      Having a narrow focus regarding the skin condition has shown to provide little results. A more compounded approach to understanding the unique circumstances of your own health appears to be the key to long term treatment.

      Sugar and alcohol are unhealthy in general, but a healthy immune system should have no issues with them.
      Too much can degrade the immune system though.

      PS. Have tried supplementing with borage, hemp seed flax seed oils. This didn’t produce any results for me.

      All the best.

      Reply
    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Hakan,

      Thanks for the link.

      Personally stay away from Curezone as it has provided lot’s of stress and confusion for me in the past.
      Having a narrow focus regarding the skin condition has shown to provide little results. A more compounded approach to understanding the unique circumstances of your own health appears to be the key to long term treatment.

      Sugar and alcohol are unhealthy in general, but a healthy immune system should have no issues with them.

      PS. Have tried supplementing with borage, hemp seed flax seed oils. This didn’t produce any results for me.

      All the best.

      Reply
  66. Tom Profile Photo
    Tom

    Hi Michael,

    I’ve just ordered the skin conditioning oil. Do you know roughly how long to get to the UK?

    kind regards,

    Tom Worrall

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Tom,

      Shipping has typically been about 10-12 business days to international locations.
      I’m located in Vancouver, Canada.

      PS. Your order was shipped today in the morning.

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    • Nisha Profile Photo
      Nisha

      Hi Michael, I m sffering with dandruff last from 8 year after my first delivery. But during my second time pregnancy in 2013 I diagnosed with Seb derm. I used steroids.That time was horrible for me because I could find that flacky itchy red greedy skin every where means around my nose, ear, eye brows etc. But after little bit study I tried tea tree oil drops diluted with water. That didn’t work for me but I got some relaxation from inflammation in my scalp. Then I massage my head directly with tea tree oil. I continued this practice for two months mean twice a week I did massage on my head. I got very good results Now i was free with scalp problem.i put that oil directly on my face I got better results but problem is this when I changed my shampoo and used conditioner it came up again. I used Vichy shampoo it is great for Seb derm. So if I don’t use tea tree oil or I changed my shampoo it come in very bad condition. Now suggest me what I do?

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  67. Eze Profile Photo
    Eze

    Hey Michael,

    I’ve heard really good things about your product from another person online. We’re both suffering from Seb Derm and are talking about solutions.

    Would you happen to ship to South Korea? I really want to try your product as I’ve heard really good things so far.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Eze,

      Currently the product is shipping internationally. International shipping is $11 USD at checkout and shipping time is typically 10-12 business days.
      Out of curiosity, where did you hear about the product?

      All the best.

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      • Eze Profile Photo
        Eze

        I heard about it from someone on Reddit. I accidentally stumbled upon him mentioning Seb Derm and we’ve kept in contact over the past few months. We’ve been sharing ideas on how to stop the seb derm. we both have the issue of losing weight as we know sugar and even basic carbs seems to flare it up. He mentioned your product and said it was the best thing he’s tried so far.

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        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Eze,

          Thanks for the update and letting me know.

          Previously I also had a strong belief that excessive carbs and sugar played a huge role. I was avoiding bread, noodles, rice and lots of other things. Once I started to actually learn about the condition from a medical point of view I became much more flexible in dietary choices.

          If you haven’t yet feel free to check out the current chapter drafts for a book I’ve been working on:

          Best of luck and hope you get things under control.

          Reply
  68. Kim Wee Teh Profile Photo
    Kim Wee Teh

    I had severe seboris dermatitis for some time now . After seeing this site i would like to try ur biom8 oil 🙂 but how do i order or buy it ? I am stsying in malaysia And been looking around all pharmacy but no luck. Please.. how do i get one of it ?

    Reply
    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Kim,

      Sorry for the delay in response. Currently the Biom8 can only be purchased online through the website: http://www.biom8.com.
      International shipping is currently $11 USD and shipping times typically take 10-12 business days for international orders.

      Hope that helps and let me know if you have any other questions.
      All the best.

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  69. Max Profile Photo
    Max

    Hello!

    First of all, I’d like to thank you for putting this site together, it is awesome and the way you go through all the different treatments, etc, is very informing.

    I would like to ask what has been the best method for you to reduce the redness on the face?

    I went to see a doctor about my skin about a year ago for the first time, and was given tetracycline, it worked really well at first and cleared my skin completely. However, towards the end of this summer the redness started coming back on the same spots and flakes quickly followed. I went to see an actual dermatologist this time, he told me I had seborhheic dermatitis and gave me a prescription of low-dosage isotretinoin and a cream where the active ingredient is metronidazol.

    I think it is the isotretinoin that has worked extremely well, and I don’t get any flaking anymore and my skin is not itchy at all. The only problem I have these days is purely cosmetical, and it is that the redness has managed to stay.

    Any recommendations?

    Thank you in advance!

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Max,

      Thanks for the feedback. The Biom8 has been really good at reducing redness. Currently I still sometimes get that strange tingling sensations, but when I look in the mirror everything is fine.
      Additionally, I highly recommend you check out the draft chapters of the book I’ve been working on. It goes into much greater detail on the condition and I’ve tried to rely primarly on medical research instead of random information found online. You can currently find it here:

      It may be a tough read, but it writing it has honestly gave me a completely new understanding of the condition. Trying to explain it all in a comment would be very time consuming 🙂

      All the best and hope that helps. Best of luck!

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  70. Saima Profile Photo
    Saima

    hi michael,

    Is this good for tinea veriscolor as well? I also have sebborric dermatitis mildly on my face and scalp. What do you think is causing it? I used to eat horribly and I drank lots of caffeinated beverages. I am trying to find a solution and right now my skin is feeling so dry after I applied Braggs apple cider vinegar. Please help!

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Saima,

      Can’t say for sure as most users who currently use it have seborrheic dermatitis specifically. However, in my research I did come across tinea veriscolor and the main culprit behind it does appear to be the malassezia as well. In theory it should work for it as well since it’s main objective is regulating the microbial community of the skin. However, there is realistically only one way to really find out.

      Overall there appear to be many factors which cause seborrheic dermatitis and these can vary from individual to individual. There is lot’s to cover and the best thing you can do is educate yourself about the condition and what may be causing it for you. With enough knowledge you can decide for yourself what the best approach would be specifically for you. A good place to start are the chapters drafts of the book I’ve been working on:

      Lot’s of different aspects are covered.
      Hope that helps and let me know if you have any other questions.

      All the best.

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  71. Minh Profile Photo
    Minh

    Hi Michael,

    I have seborrheic dermatitis on my eyebrows. If I were to apply Biom8, will there be a risk where I will lose hair? I already have very thin eyebrows because of SD and I am very scared that what I have left will be gone as a side effect (clogging of hair follicles).
    Also, another silly question, is this Biom8 intended to be a daily routine to keep SD away as long as I continue to use it or is it suppose to be short term until “cured” kinda thing? Thank you!

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Minh,

      From my experience once the seborrheic dermatitis is under control, hair growth improves and any losses reverse. Much of the literature on commercial anti-fungal products (Pyrithione Zinc, Ketoconazole, etc.) makes note of this as well.

      The Biom8 hasn’t caused any clogging for me and beard growth seems to have actually accelerated.

      Currently, I’ve been using Biom8 as part of my daily routine. However, I stopped using everything else (including all faces washes and cleansers). Since I created the formula myself I feel much more confident in the ingredients that go into it. Perhaps down the road I may try to stop using it as well, but currently my skin has been loving it and the routine doesn’t really take much effort.

      Hope that helps and best of luck.

      Reply
  72. Donna Profile Photo
    Donna

    Day 18 of using the BIOM8 and still irritation free! Just as a side comment, I have been using it on 2 (3 month old laprascopic surgery) scars and have seen quite an improvement. Redness leaving and fading. Just wish I had taken before and after pics of both my face and my surgery scars. Great stuff Michael, I am truly grateful.

    Reply
    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Donna,

      Thanks for the update. Happy to hear the results for the scars as well. 🙂
      Currently using it for practically all my skin care needs as well (aftershave, random irritation, etc.).

      Yeah, too bad about the before and afters. Perhaps other users may provide some down the road.

      All the best!

      PS. Still haven’t received the 250mL containers. If your running out, let me know! Will just mix and match the smaller volumes.

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  73. Adrienne Profile Photo
    Adrienne

    Hello Michael,

    Thank you so much for creating this website! It’s been a great source of information, having just discovered that I have SD. I’ve been using Apple Cider Vinegar as a treatment and have noticed a slight difference.

    I want to try the Biom8 and have gone to purchase it, however, it is telling me that the “skindrone” coupon has expired. I wanted to confirm if it is not longer available prior to making the purchase?

    Thank you!

    Reply
    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Adrienne,

      Thanks for the positive feedback. Hopefully you can find something on here that resolves things completely.
      Unfortunately this coupon is no longer available as I had to cover the expenses out of pocket, which really started to add up.

      Sorry about this.
      There will be a new coupon available in the upcoming weeks for the oil free formula though.

      All the best.

      Reply
        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Jamie,

          It’s ready, but I’m waiting for the first batch of inventory to arrive.
          However, I haven’t really been able to test it since my seborrheic dermatitis has gone away from using the original Biom8.

          For initial orders I will likely either offer a large discount or simply add it to order of original formula as a sample.

          Will update as soon as it’s ready to be shipped.

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          • Jamie Profile Photo
            Jamie

            Hi Michael,

            A couple of questions on usage of Biom8. It will help me to decide what size to purchase for the original formula.

            Can Biom8 be used as night time cleanser for removal of sunscreen? I read a comment by Donna that she uses it as makeup remover with success.

            I use Vit C serum in the day time. Should I put Biom8 before or after Vit C? I know that sunscreen is the last.

            Is the oil free formula ready? If I get both how do they work? If I use the original formula, where does the oil free formula come in?

            Thanks in advance.

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Jamie,

            My own approach with it is really simple. Cleanse with slightly cold water and apply Biom8 a few minutes later as a moisturizer.
            However, I guess it can be used as a sort of cleanser and washed off with water after it’s usage. Would love to hear your experience with this approach.

            What type of Vitamin C serum are you using (ingredients or direct product link)? The composition would determine the order.

            The oil free formula will actually be arriving today.
            Planning to initially send it out a discounted price in a package with the condition oil (the conditioning oil has had a really impressive success rate, while the oil free formula is brand new).
            Can hopefully setup the order page sometime this evening.

            When used together the oil free formula would be applied prior to the conditioning oil.
            The oil free formula contains ingredients I wanted to originally add to the conditioning oil, but bonding agents and preservatives would have been required.
            For this reason the formulas were separated. When used together they should compliment each other (increasing anti-fungal activity and improving skin repair rate).

            Hope that helps.

          • Jamie Profile Photo
            Jamie

            Hi Michael,

            The Vit C serum that I am using is Skinceuticals CE Ferulic serum. This is the only product I apply in the morning besides sunscreen. I do not use a cleanser in the morning or moisturizer as the ingredients may aggravate my SD. I have tried Cetaphil Restoraderm Wash 3 months ago as my cleanser but my SD reacted badly to it. Way back in March this year I was doing the honey treatment with good results but the improvement was not significant, eventually my SD returned. Even Elomet could not calm down the redness.

            This is my current morning routine. I wet a terry towel with water; cold, warm or hot, I am inconsistent. Wring out the wet towel and wipe on my face a few times. Less than 1 min when my face is almost dry, I apply Skinceuticals CE Ferulic. I wait about 10 min for the serum to dry, followed by sunscreen. I am using La Roche-Posay Anthelios XL SPF 50+.

            Night time I cleanse with Ceradan Wash, which is given by my dermatologist. I use a night time cleanser as I need to remove the sunscreen effectively. I have tried Rhassoul clay, it was really great but I am not sure if it could cleanse off the sunscreen so I am stuck with Ceradan. I hope to ditch Ceradan and use Biom8 so my concern is whether it could remove sunscreen and/or makeup. My night time routine is just cleansing, no moisturizers or any facial products.

            I didn’t know that the oil free formula and conditioning oil are complimentary, I always assumed it is one or the other. I would like to get both and start with only the conditioning oil first to test out for one month, then add the oil free formula subsequently. What do you think?

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Jamie,

            Sorry for the delay. Just looked at the Vitamin C serum. Personally would apply the Biom8 after the serum, this should be fine. The sunscreen, however may be a little trickier, but I would use it after the Biom8 has had time to absorb. Are you using the sunscreen daily for any specific reason?

            In terms of night time routine, it’s very interesting that you don’t use any moisturizers at this time. For me it’s been the most optimal time for anything I’ve used as by the morning the skin has had time to absorb everything and return to a more neutral matte look.

            Clay was horrible for me. Tried a bunch of different ones and they always sucked the moisture right out and left my skin extra flaky/dry.

            In terms of make-up/sunscreen removal I can’t really provide much info, as I all I use is Biom8 and water. Absolutely nothing else for more then 3 months now. Even for shaving I use the Andalou shampoo in place of shaving cream and Biom8 instead of after shave.:)
            Donna seems to have had good success with using the Biom8 to remove makeup though. So you may want to check her previous comments or perhaps ask her directly.

            Hope that helps and I’ve answered everything.
            Look forward to any updates and will let you know as soon as the Probiotic version is ready (hopefully tomorrow or Saturday).

            All the best!

          • Jamie Profile Photo
            Jamie

            Hi Michael,

            Thanks for taking the time to reply.

            I am using CE Ferulic serum for protection against photoaging, whilst sunscreen is for prevention of pigmentation. Perhaps I was bought into the concept of sun protection as an essential part of skin care and both antioxidant and sunscreen go hand in hand. 🙂

            I am grateful for Donna’s comments. I found the comments by the users and the community so helpful. It helps SDers fight this “disease” together.

            I am waiting for the oil free formula (probiotic repair spray). I wanted to order the 200ml skin conditioning oil but is currently only available on backorder. 200ml comes with refill top, I prefer pump. Just a feedback. I am sure the pump for 100ml and refill top for 200ml are made for a purpose. If you could let me know when the oil free formula (probiotic repair spray) is coming, I could plan when to order. Otherwise I will just order the skin conditioning oil in 100ml.

            Thanks! 🙂

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Jamie,

            Sorry for the delay in response. Things have been getting out of control lately and responding to emails has been taking up pretty much all of my free time. Will be getting much more active here once again in this following weeks.

            Antioxidants are definitely good for the skin. I’ve personally just wanted to reduce my topical regimen to as basic as possible (perhaps it makes me fell more manly). 🙂

            Yeah, Donna deserves a huge thank you as she has been quite active in terms of providing details about her experience. Wish I had more input in terms of using it with make-up, but I truly lack experience in this area. 🙂

            The user base of Biom8 has been growing and it’s likely individuals have found their own unique methods of integrating it into their skin care routines (particularly female users). Hopefully, this information can somehow be collected as it would likely benefit others going down this path.

            The Probiotic Repay Spray has finally been released and can be found on the Biom8 website. Overall the feedback I’ve been getting for this has been much more mixed then the Skin Conditioning Oil. Some have reported that it doesn’t offer much help, while others said it has worked better for them then the oil. This was somewhat expected, as it was developed to compliment the original formula and targets slightly different species of the malassezia.

            In terms of the large volumes of the Skin Conditioning Oil, the original plan was to have the 250ml units simply available for refilling the 100ml and 30ml units. Have had this request several times though, so looking for a solution. 🙂

            How have things been going since we last talked?

            Happy holidays and wish you all the best for 2016!

          • Jamie Profile Photo
            Jamie

            Hi Michael,

            I ordered 100ml Skin Conditioning Oil on 6 Dec. Can’t wait to receive it! May I know if you have shipped the item and what is the estimated date of arrival?

            Once I start using it, I will be happy to share my feedbacks.

            Happy holidays to you too!

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Jamie,

            Sorry for the huge delay in getting back to your comment. There has been a huge pile of emails from the holidays and I’m slowly working through these.
            Just did a quick search for your order and just wanted to confirm that it was sent out on December 9th 2015. Typically international orders take 10-12 business days to arrive, but it appears the holidays have totally messed up this estimate.

            Hopefully you have received your order by now.
            Please let me know if it still hasn’t arrived.

            Look forward to any updates.
            Wish you all the best for 2016!

          • Jamie Profile Photo
            Jamie

            Hi Michael,

            I have not received the order, it has been more than a month. Taking the Christmas and New Year periods into account on top of the 10-12 business days, it should have arrived one week ago. I will wait a couple more days or weeks. But if it doesn’t reach me eventually, what should I do?

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Jamie,

            Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it didn’t get lost and makes it soon. Orders to country such as Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand have been taking the longest.
            Perhaps the customs there are more strict or some other reason for this. Not 100% sure to be honest. Will look into this issue to see if there are any specific reasons.

            Let me know if it the order doesn’t arrive be the end of this week (January 15th). We’ll have to figure out some kind of resolution.

            Sorry again for the delay.
            All the best and keep me updated.

          • Jamie Profile Photo
            Jamie

            Hi Michael,

            Thanks for the follow up. I will keep you posted on the status of delivery. Appreciate your help in my journey to battle SD.

          • Jamie Profile Photo
            Jamie

            Hi Michael,

            The order has not arrived. I placed the order of Skin Conditioning Oil 100ml on 6 Dec 2015.

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Jamie,

            Sorry to hear that. This is the second order to Singapore that hasn’t showed up.
            Another persons order was shipped all the way back in the end of November.
            Not sure what the reason maybe, but the post office informed me that it may be related to customs.

            Typically international orders take 12 business days to arrive. So this is extremely unusual.
            Hopefully your order arrives soon. Email me if you have any updates. If nothing shows up be the end of next week, we’ll try to figure out a resolution.

            All the best.

  74. Kellie F. Profile Photo
    Kellie F.

    I looked up the dandruff shampoo you mentioned. I was surprised to find that it has Argan oil in it. I was told by a hairstylist (who recognized the seb derm) that I should avoid Argan oil/ Moroccan oil because it would irritate my skin and cause a rash.

    After she said that, I’ve been avoiding all products that had it.

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    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Kellie,

      Honestly I’ve been told so many things by so many people throughout the years.
      My best progress has been when I stopped listening to others and just focused on what felt right.

      Hope that helps.

      Reply
  75. Mike Profile Photo
    Mike

    Hey! so i’ve had issues with Seborrheic dermatitis on both the face and scalp for some time now. I generally use a generic head and shoulders for the scalp and i haven’t had any issues with dandruff for a few years. Unfortunately nothing seems to help my face in the long term, except dry weather. I moved to California for a few months and my skin cleared up immediately it was generally around 20-30% humidity but, as soon as i moved to a more humid area my skin started getting red and flaky around my nose. This is not the first time ive made a transition from humid to dry and seen really significant effects on my skin. Any ideas or insight? thanks.

    Reply
    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Mike,

      Sorry for the long delay in response.

      So far from my own understanding, humidity could provide a better environment of the yeast to proliferate and may also increase sebum production. Additionally, the humidity may cause sebaceous glands to open up and allow the malassezia to better penetrate the hair follicles. However, these are just assumptions and I haven’t seen any research regarding any of these.

      However, I’ve been working on a book and the seborrheic dermatitis chapter is almost ready. It goes deep into explaining what seborrheic dermatitis is and how it’s believed to operate. Basically, though from everything I have been reading I’m convinced that it is a result of fatty acid metabolism and synthesis issues. Will update with a link to the draft copy once it’s ready. Bug me if I forget, as there are a lot of parallel conversions going on at the site.

      If you want to keep up to date check out the community. A forum has been setup for the discussion of the book and all the chapters it contains.

      All the best.

      Reply
      • mike Profile Photo
        mike

        I would agree with almost 100% certainty that humidity is a huge factor for me. I travel a lot for periods of time up to two months and i always notice that very dry climates (under 40% relative humidity) seem to push my SD down to a dormant state. I believe whatever causes SD be it malassezia or something else struggles to survive in low humidity. I would be very interested to hear more about your findings and I hope you can figure out something definitive.
        -Mike

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        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Mike,

          Just wanted to follow up.

          Perhaps another component of the humidity factor is dust mites. It is possible that the malassezia weaken the skin barrier and the dust mites during sleep simply further aggravate the skin and compromise the barrier. This is obviously just speculation, but high dust mite presence has been correlated with atopic dermatitis (source).

          Though I don’t think that they are the direct cause, they may simply add to the existing problem.

          All the best.

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          • Mike Profile Photo
            Mike

            Hey Micheal, sorry for the late reply I have been very busy with life, shortly after returning to a humid country my SD kicked back into full gear, I use head and shoulders on my head nothing works on the face, I was thinking about trying Cetaphil Restoraderm lotion and L-glutamine. If that doesn’t work i will probably be ordering some BOIM8!
            Once again thanks for your help any advice would be appreciated.

          • Michael Profile Photo
            Michael

            Hi Mike,

            Not a problem, my replies can be quite delayed as well (research, emails, and my actual job make it hard to keep up).
            Hope you find something that works for you.

            If you find the time, would love to hear how things unfold.
            All the best.

  76. Lukas Profile Photo
    Lukas

    Hi Michael,
    Your job here is extremely appreciated. I’ve been fighting SB for about 4 years and the best method so far was the ACV, but somehow it really dried my skin on the affected parts. Tried some lotions after but they didn’t seem to bite.

    I have now ordered Biom8 and really excited to try it out.
    How do you do after you shower? Do you put some Biom8 on then as well or do you only apply it after you have rinsed your face?

    Thanks for this awesome website!
    Kind regards

    Reply
    • Michael Profile Photo
      Michael

      Hi Lukas,

      Personally, the ACV didn’t seem like a very good solution. I think it works as a mild anti-fungal, but I believe most of it’s potential comes from the fact that it acts as an astringent, minimizing pores and reducing sebum production. This seems to starve the malassezia. But in the end the skin tends to look quite raw as the pH shift is quite drastic.

      Thanks for giving it a shot. Hopefully it works as well for you!

      After the shower is actually the best/easiest time to apply it for me. Basically I just rinse my face with mildly cold water while showering, then by the time I’m out of the shower and in-front of the mirror it’s the perfect moisture level to apply the Biom8. Without the shower, I typically have to wait a few minutes after rinsing my face to let it air dry a bit.

      Thanks for the kind words.
      Best of luck and hope it works out.
      PS. I’m shipping it out tomorrow morning, US delivery should take about 6-8 business days (I’m in Vancouver, Canada).

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      • Harry Horowitz Profile Photo
        Harry Horowitz

        Hey Michael, I wanted to order the 100ml bottle of biom8 today but the site said it was on backorder. Im just wondering if you have any idea for how long it will be until it is back in stock or if I burly it now, how long the entire shipping process would take with the product being on backorder, thanks.

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        • Michael Profile Photo
          Michael

          Hi Harry,

          Sorry for the delay. The whole process has been taking up a much larger amount of time then I had anticipated.
          Currently the 100mL is finally back in-stock, but it’s already running low because of all the back-orders.

          If I have inventory on hand I try to ship it the same day that I receive the order. However, I’m planning to go on a 2 day per week schedule.
          Shipping time to USA has been about 8-10 business days and international orders typically take 10-12 business day. Orders within Canada are extremely fast and average 2-5 business day.

          Hope that helps and once again sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

          PS. Your order was shipped October 20th and should hopefully arrive sometime next week.

          All the best.

          Reply
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